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[–] [email protected] 190 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Gotta love the Satanists. They're fighting the good fight.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 6 months ago (4 children)

And best of all, they’re not even satanists. They just call themselves an edgy name

[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Christians don't understand that. Apparently the satanic panic never ended.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Satanic panic is their whole life. I really pity them. They live in constant fear of not only their god who supposedly "loves" them, but another deity who also doesn't exist.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago

Yep! "What do you call someome who believes in a literal Satan?" .. "Christian."

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I'm not for any religious discrimination.

They should all be worshipped privately and have no governmental supporting.

[–] [email protected] 107 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They should all be worshipped privately

Pretty sure the bible specifically mentions that too.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hey, don't you go bringing the Bible into this discussion about religion!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

Yeah, Republicans hate when you do that because they're completely unarmed!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

These people are not actual religious worshippers though. This is activism. There’s a difference between the two groups

Edit: here’s some additional information, should you be interested - https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/faq

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That's why the ~~Church of Satan~~ Satanic Temple is trying this, they know it will cause outrage and people will be far more likely to ban all religion from schools than allow satanism.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 6 months ago

the Temple [...] named a telehealth abortion clinic after Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito’s mom.

This is a beautifully poetic insult and I love it.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That’s my religious organization! Proud to be a regular donor. Highly recommend everyone joins and donates, they’re truly doing great work

[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I'm Christian, but have given them money.

Separating church and state makes better government AND better churches.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

For a moment I thought you were going to say "doing God's work"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

I was going to say doing Satan’s work, but we’re actually nontheists

[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Please consider donating to the Satanic Temple if you can. They're doing important work fighting Christian Nationalism.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 months ago (3 children)

For those out there who only read headlines, the short of it is that many Satanists are rarely actually worshipers of Satan like a deity, many of them are just proactive atheists who have adopted the most abhorrent religious identity possible to Christians to provide necessary pushback against attempts at making the USA a Christian nation.

The same people who scream relentlessly about supporting the constitution for issues like gun control, seem just fine with abandoning the 1st amendment's Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clauses. So Satanists are forcing Christians to declare their choices out loud. If you're going to say the law should allow religion to be part of government, then you have to be fine with all religions being involved, OR you have to admit that you don't respect the USA's founding principles and documents. You can't have it both ways.

There is not so much Satanism being promoted here as much as a spotlight on hypocrisy and I'm all in for it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Are my donations to TST tax deductable?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The only thing better than The Church of Satan is having them essentially state-funded :)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

We don't worship Satan because mythological supernatural creatures simply don't exist.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Satanist don't actually want in, they want religion out

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Correction, they want equal religious rights for everyone

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

correction: They only want in when other religions also want it.

Basically, they're the US military if the US military was like "hey wouldn't it be funny if we trolled them instead of bombing three hospitals?"

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (7 children)

I'm a Satanist and affiliated with neither CoS or TST. The leadership of TST are not good people. One of them tried to make himself the god of a cargo cult and the other has a history of making racist, antisemitic and ablist statements. He also owned a website about eugenics until 2018.

That video I linked to is long but it is very well sourced and I hope might give you a bit more insight into who you're supporting if you choose to join or donate to them. There's a lot of comments under the video from ex-TST members, including Ministers and Chapter Heads who've been badly burnt by TST.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Sorry to ask, but could someone summarize the video? Cannot watch it rn, and will probably forget later.

That said, all organizations face this kind of “what’s the orgs vision or character” challenge. Thats why good leadership is important. Sometimes it’s best to cut loses and reorganize, and also market how you’re different now.

Supporting eugenics in any form is unconscionable, but people make mistakes and can grow from them. There are examples of KKK members who became activists in other direction, and we shouldn’t lock people in to their past bad decisions. I encourage the idea of “reformed racists”.

As asinine as I think the idea of “Satan” is in general, I see value in contenders and challengers to established religious authorities. As a rule, we should remove religion from policy making.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (3 children)

As someone who recently completed work on an 8 and a half tall demon statue in his living room, I approve.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

8 and a half tall demon statue

My high school math and science teachers eyes are twitching....

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The missing unit is kilometers

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Bet cuckservatives would rather allow satanism into their schools if.. it was suggested that Islam too should be included.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Prosperity Gospel is so close to LaVeyan Satanism that it barely makes a difference.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

FUCK YEAH!!! PRAISE SATAN!!!!

Fair is fair right? Or let me guess, not like that?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not like that. It's HAIL SATAN

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

Good. Hail Satan and teach kids about all religions or none.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"'Freedom' of religion!"
"No wait, not like that!!!"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

As a Satanist, I absolutely think schools should welcome your bountiful deity with open arms, so long as they feel it's important to discuss religion in school. Preferably, we should leave that kind of personal discussion at home. That being said, I think people could really benefit from learning about "The seven I would really rather you didn'ts."

Ra'men.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Don't really need the Satanists. Just tell conservatives that anything they want to mandate that is Christian can also/ will be done for Muslims. Notice how the war on Chirstmas always heats up around the time Ramadan coincides with it?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

We absolutely need the satanists they are the ones that are doing things. What are the other religions doing?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


When conservative lawmakers in Florida and Texas won the fight to allow religious chaplains in public schools, they swung open the door to ministers from other faiths — including the Satanic Temple.

It offered the Hellions Academy as an alternative to Christian studies during school hours and named a telehealth abortion clinic after Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito’s mom.

The proposals, which vary slightly, would have chaplains of various denominations serve in similar capacities as school counselors, in some cases with on-campus offices or salaries paid for by the districts.

A federal court sided with the Temple in a legal challenge last year, and there are currently seven clubs nationwide, where children make arts and crafts, learn about animals and do science experiments.

One of the Temple’s first actions was to perform a “pink mass” in which gay couples made out over the grave of the mother of Fred Phelps, founder of the homophobic Westboro Baptist Church, and declared her a lesbian.

The Temple has protested corporal punishment of children and sued states to argue that abortion restrictions violate their religious rights.“It is a poignant way of pushing the idea of what these governments really care about,” said Jay Wexler, a Boston University law professor who studies church-and-state issues.


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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

One of the Temple’s first actions was to perform a “pink mass” in which gay couples made out over the grave of the mother of Fred Phelps, founder of the homophobic Westboro Baptist Church, and declared her a lesbian.

This is delicious.

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