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The Great Climate Cover Up (lemmy.world)

submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Isn’t this how America works?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but you need a middleman to get their cut, otherwise it's a bribe. If you pay someone to bribe for you, it's lobbying.

Yes, it's fucked up how fucked up our fucked stuff is fucked.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

No, the comic depicts wealthy people actually doing work instead of festering on society like bloated ticks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Not only America

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

But please white "leftists" tell us more about "but Biden same!"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

white?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

racial minorities aren't real silly, they're a ploy by the music industry to sell more latino pop and hip-hop

[+] [email protected] -36 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Ok. Did Biden solicit taking a billion dollars to roll back existing climate protections?

Or did Biden just endorse a 1.2 billion dollar plan to build carbon capture facilities in the area of our refineries with the stated goal of being emission neutral by mid century?

Don't act like your false equivalency makes Biden and trump the same.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

carbon capture facilities

These are a known scam, by the way. It's just repackaging a technique oil companies already use to squeeze more oil out of the same fields and charge the government and consumers for the pleasure of feeling like they've done something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Great, you linked an article with a claim about how carbon capture facilities are used by oil companies.

This isn't that. My state, and several others are developing state controlled permanent storage sites for captured CO2 called class VI wells.

I'll grant you that it isn't a permanent or long term solution, but my point still stands that Trump is nakedly and publicly selling our future to oil companies and Biden is at least trying to do something to make things better. They are not the same.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Okay this sounds interesting as a short term solution (though I don't see what the medium and long term solutions will be) - I'd be interested in knowing what companies are benefiting from this and how much, etc and what the transition plans will be.

But there is one majorly fucked up part of the plan: this is an untested methodology, so they're testing it under the homes of black and poor communities. Louisianan does not disappoint.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

they're testing it under the homes of black and poor communities

That's the concern. Its still very much in the planning stages with decisions set to be made later on in the year about larger scale solutions. The people who that article talks about do have a voice and there's a strong chance the state will bend to those concerns and choose somewhere else.

But yeah, Louisiana is a shitty state to live in in general. It ranks dead last in several metrics of civilized life out of the 50 states. It's also heavily republican and politically backwards. But we're trying to make progress.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Going to go away and read about this. As a Brit living in Spain, I know very little about the ins and outs of what's going on there.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah almost like a war broke out that created major supply shocks which would have impacted the ability of our major democratic allies to function!

But why let actual context get in the way of whining about how the dems are exactly the same as a christian fascist movement?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Are those labels really needed?