Reddit

Reddit: bots talking to bots.

Lemmy: the socially awkward talking to the neurodivergent.

I don't know, the idea that users on Lemmy were the best part of Reddit is a bit egotistical, bordering on narcissism.

I think what you're looking at is simply differences in scale and variety of communities. The user migration to Lemmy was negligible, and I don't really think content quality here is inherently better than it is there. Rather, I think Reddit has just become too big and mainstream.

1. More Boomers are now using Reddit, which for me seems like the same downward spiral that ended up hitting Facebook.
2. Corporations see people using Reddit for advice and so they spam it up to try to influence shopping habits and land on Google search results.

If Lemmy ever becomes as popular as Reddit, the same thing will happen.

Many groups left, lemmy was actually a minoritarian destination.

And lots and lots of bots came. Almost immediately. It was weird looking how all the people left and yet the amount of stuff there stayed the same.

I think you're grossly overestimating

Lemmy shaved off 0.0057% of reddit users. An actual inconsequential number.

This would be like you losing a grand total of 1 grain of rice, from ~35,000 rice bowls.

Even if that was the best tasting grain of rice of the whole bunch, you wouldn't notice.

I've noticed it too but I don't think it's only because of the exodus.

I think it's also because by removing mod tools and opening the floodgates for bots, Reddit has enabled all kinds of vote manipulation and content manipulation by all the shill armies.

Everything from the Hasbara, the 50 centers, Putin's troll farm, Musk's troll farm, whatever Zucc runs that used to come and sealion me anytime I talked about facebook's role in genocide ... all those things have come into their full power now.

I don't reckon Lemmy users are as great as all that, but I definitely agree on the downturn of Reddit. It's been on a downward trend for years but we've past a milestone recently where I truly no longer want to interact with most of it.

I saw a Reddit post a few weeks ago that was a 1-minute cut down clip, clearly reuploaded from a YouTube video without credit. Several thousand upvotes, fair enough as it was a good video, but I went to the comments to find a source as you always could on Reddit. One person. One person out of hundreds of comments had posted the source and they had about 10 upvotes so I only found it after scrolling multiple pages. In the old days that would have been top comment with a "why didn't you post the source of this stolen content" attitude, now it was almost impossible to find. Made me realise the audience truly has changed. The top posts are all Facebook slop for people that want to pretend they're better than Facebook users.

Reddit is large enough that it's user base is very diverse and niche hobbies can still get a substantial following. From what I can tell, us lemmings are all kinda the same nerdy person who's into Linux and gaming with not enough of us to really make communities for divergent interests.

When I first came in a few people were trying to get /c/bjj going but it just kind of fell off because the middle of a venn diagram of people who are nerdy enough to be here and also into grappling is like me and 6 other people

Still, I peek in here now and again because the shitposts tend to be better.

lmao, its really not that different here, other than there just being fewer of us.

The subreddit I was active on is still going strong, albeit with less interested mods. I think the impact of us leaving depends on the types of subs most lemmies used to be on. I don't think anyone from the sub I was on left reddit.

I noticed AMP links started popping up all over Reddit. Before Google started injecting money, posting those was discouraged. Surely it's a total coincidence.

I think there's also a general age demographic shift down as the mods and people who care about moderation, third party apps, bots, etc left. Something similar happened during the digg exodus where social norms and consensus around some topics changed, just not at much with the bots at the time. People who remain may not care, or they just may be unaware. There was always some propaganda blindness too in the 'i don't use social media just reddit' crowd.

The biggest difference I've seen is that while hot takes are fewer, when they do appear they are much spicier than hot takes on Reddit.

I think, beyond simply offering counterpoints, Lemmings are also better at accepting nuance and taking measured opinions. It would be really interesting to track changes over time in the usage of certain keywords on Reddit that would imply nuance. For instance, words like "but," "however," "think," "believe," "may," etc.

I have no doubt that the usage of these words would go down after seeing how Reddit is like now, but it would definitely be interesting to see the formal data on it

Well, I started the keitruck subreddit and look at me now banned from the site. They just lef me build it until they came and then banned me from the entire site. But yeah I bet they gotta be filling the place with bots now.

Yeah I would agree that for casual conversation Discord overtook for me. I was lurking r/warframe and after losing pc capable running game started gacha and discussed on r/Arknights. So with api fiasco I left Reddit and tried Mastodon... have account and check it out but there is no activity on #arknights , joined discord server for R/Arknights that was made during blackout and still going strong. Like I got better of R/Arknights and not on Reddit. People some use Reddit, some silently, some like me abandoned and even people who never used Reddit joined. Moderating m/Arknights on Kbin but with Kbin dev having unlucky strike and generally hopping he have health to both have normalcy and work on Kbin. So without proper mod tools and some broken features (like webp not displaying, where microblogs from Misskey converts to webp to consolidate space) and some other little wants that I would propose if I knew there would be implemented.

Using Misskey.io before it closed registration to Japanese only (happens when everyone was leaving twitter for Musk dumb thing he implemented). With Misskey at least found artists and players for Arknights but as it is Japanese instance, they only thing I can do is share art so #arknights tag weren't dead on Mastodon.social .

So TL DR left Reddit, joined sub Reddit discord server which is where I spend most of my leisure time, using Mastodon for news, Kbin for moderation (but no one visits, at least no spam as I clean up) and news , Misskey for fan art.

Lemmy is barely any better its just more left leaning.