I can't count the number of times l have had to wait 30 effing days to get my refund for a cancelled work flight that I paid for and couldn't get reimbursed for. Sometimes I needed it for bills, it sucked.

Welcome change indeed.

Same, fucking delta offered my us $90 refund per ticket for a $400 flight that was cancelled....and then wanted us to rebook it for the next week...i just wanted my damn money back.

Yeah, the weather note is huge. Historically, airlines would just cite “weather” because there was a single cloud in the sky halfway to the destination. Because if a cancellation was weather related, they didn’t have to pay out.

I basically see this as the government going “look, we tried to be nice and give you some leeway. But you abused that by citing weather for every single cancellation. So now you’re on a tight leash and can’t even cite it when it’s valid.”

Oh man this is that high fucking quality type of discussion I’m here for, direct link, exact quote , clearly separated but very based opinion

Have an upvote king

Yes but other side of that coin:

This might cause airlines to push pilots to fly anyway when the weather is outright dangerous to fly. I'm waiting for the first news article about an airplane that took off straight into a thunderstorm, got caught in a down draft and crashed, killing everyone.

Don't underestimate the inventive ways companies can cheat to save money

Yes. It's still the right thing to do.
Cheaper nonrefundable tickets should be banned also.

Prices raised to match the service they should have been providing is reasonable. Cheap tickets were being subsidized by not giving refunds...

Prices raised across the board by a dollar or something? Good insurance policy for “refundable” fares.

(Obviously not in the “cancel for any reason” sense, that’s wayyy more.)

If it's Boeing, I ain't goin'!

Please name and shame the airline.

I fly fairly often, and I feel the opposite. Airports are chaotic hell, yes, but there's always someone who knows what's going on. Usually the check-in desk is the place to ask. I mostly fly Korean Air and Air Canada, though.

No, that doesn't end until idiots stop agreeing to it when offered....which won't happen any time soon.

But 168 of my fellow passengers have protected their flights today!

They haven't lowered prices, that's for sure.

Very interesting that it didn't in the US, because it did in the EU.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUp62AGE9JU

Even if demand was perfectly inelastic and the burden was paid entirely by the consumer... I'd still rather get what I paid for than leave it up to chance.

Yes it would apply:

Canceled or significantly changed flights: Passengers will be entitled to a refund if their flight is canceled or significantly changed, and they do not accept alternative transportation or travel credits offered. For the first time, the rule defines “significant change.” Significant changes to a flight include departure or arrival times that are more than 3 hours domestically and 6 hours internationally; departures or arrivals from a different airport; increases in the number of connections; instances where passengers are downgraded to a lower class of service; or connections at different airports or flights on different planes that are less accessible or accommodating to a person with a disability.

https://www.transportation.gov/briefing-room/biden-harris-administration-announces-final-rule-requiring-automatic-refunds-airline

That seems like it would fall under the delayed category.