It is a scenario playing out nationwide. From Oregon to Pennsylvania, hundreds of communities have in recent years either stopped adding fluoride to their water supplies or voted to prevent its addition. Supporters of such bans argue that people should be given the freedom of choice. The broad availability of over-the-counter dental products containing the mineral makes it no longer necessary to add to public water supplies, they say. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says that while store-bought products reduce tooth decay, the greatest protection comes when they are used in combination with water fluoridation.

The outcome of an ongoing federal case in California could force the Environmental Protection Agency to create a rule regulating or banning the use of fluoride in drinking water nationwide. In the meantime, the trend is raising alarm bells for public health researchers who worry that, much like vaccines, fluoride may have become a victim of its own success.

The CDC maintains that community water fluoridation is not only safe and effective but also yields significant cost savings in dental treatment. Public health officials say removing fluoride could be particularly harmful to low-income families — for whom drinking water may be the only source of preventive dental care.

“If you have to go out and get care on your own, it’s a whole different ballgame,” said Myron Allukian Jr., a dentist and past president of the American Public Health Association. Millions of people have lived with fluoridated water for years, “and we’ve had no major health problems,” he said. “It’s much easier to prevent a disease than to treat it.”

According to the anti-fluoride group Fluoride Action Network, since 2010, over 240 communities around the world have removed fluoride from their drinking water or decided not to add it.

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[–] 204 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So lead, plastic, and PFAS are fine but fluoride is where they draw the line…?

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    [–] 194 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I am SO tired of being at the mercy of idiots.

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    [–] 167 points 2 years ago (31 children)

    No, people shouldn't have the right to choose if fluoride is added to their water. People are stupid. You vote to remove something that will greatly help children that can't vote. The government's job, sometimes, is to stop stupid people from hurting others and their selves. That's the reason you can't drink raw milk or use lead gas.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago* (8 children)

    That's the reason you can't drink raw milk or use lead gas.

    You can get raw milk if your state allows it. The federal government bans it, but only has regulatory authority over interstate commerce, so it can't be moved across state boundaries, but you can get it if it's made in-state.

    I mean, I think that you're mostly aiming to expose yourself to listeria, but if that's what someone wants...

    My guess is that dairy farmers have an interest in promoting it in that if they can sell it, it gives them a market without much competition.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_raw_milk_debate

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Drinking milk was a bad example. I should have said sell unpasteurized milk. The point I think we both agree is that stupid for people make stupid decisions. Just like I don't think people can decide about vaccines that have very low risk rates. It effects everyone, not just the idiots.

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    [–] 148 points 2 years ago (20 children)

    We live in the time of the most readily available and advanced information yet continually make the dumbest fucking decisions.

    “Cavities…yeah….goddamn hadn’t had one of those in awhile, we should bring those back.”

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    [–] 133 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The UK used the same argument to stop the addition of iodine to salt. "People already consume enough dietary iodine". You know what happened? Thyroid diseases are on the rise in the UK again, slowly creeping back to early XX century levels.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I think iodine is underappreciated. But also I think fewer and fewer people use the salt shaker because they eat so much processed food (which has salt that is not iodized). Then you're down to milk and seafood. Milk gets it because they use iodine to sanitize the udders. So if you don't drink milk and who eats seafood on most days. Solution to anyone reading: multivitamin.

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    [–] 90 points 2 years ago (19 children)

    You can't trust this stuff. I only drink water straight from the creek and- excuse me, my diarrhea is acting up.

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    [–] 71 points 2 years ago (18 children)

    Ban the fluoride and give universal dental care like Canada is planning.

    A pipe dream. The dummies will likely just ban the fluoride with no other plan or solution.

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    [–] 58 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    USA, can you PPEASE remform your education system and actually ensure that everyone gets a normal and good education? Your idiots are ruining the country.

    Also while at it, use that education to teach the kids what freedom really is, how little you really have of it, that boasting about it is dumb, and that using it to make idiotic decisions doesn't make you look awesome, it makes you look like, well, an idiot.

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    [–] 56 points 2 years ago (18 children)

    We need to stop letting the village idiots make policy.

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    [–] 56 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    Supporters of such bans argue that people should be given the freedom of choice.

    If you honestly don't want fluoride, you can remove it yourself.

    Honestly, if you're that paranoid about anything in your drinking water, you'd probably benefit from outright distilling it anyway.

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    [–] 52 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    Americans won the battle to bring back measles

    Now they’re fighting to bring back tooth decay

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    [–] 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It’s only “fluoride” if it’s from the Florida region of the United States of America—otherwise it’s just a sparkling inorganic, monatomic anion of fluorine.

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    [–] 47 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    People can be fucking ignorant and unfortunately Covid made this all worse. There are simple measures we can take as a society to make everyone’s health better but people succumb to misinformation spread by those who profit from the alternative.

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    [–] 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

    Not this shit again. This pseudo-scientific nonsense has been debunked numerous times already. You would think that this would be a dead conspiracy theory but here we are debating this once more. This is what happens when you have an scientifically illiterate population.

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    [–] 41 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    When the tap water is "cloudy, bubbly, and milky" I think of a thousand different reasons why this could be. Flourid is not on that list.

    If the tap water looks like that, I'd have the installarion checked before anything else. And I would not put it beyond an American water provider to deliver absolutely shitty water.

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    [–] 38 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    This sounds like that Simpsons episode where the school board votes down the "free recharging of fire extinguishers". They aren't even saying that their might be problems with floride, they just want choice for the option of choices sake. What is next, freedom to push your children into traffic?

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    [–] 36 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Just another pest boil of the lack of scientific education in the US. Anti-Vaxx, Anti-Flouride, Anti-Science in general. Do you guys want to go back to the age of pilgrim fathers, or what?

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    [–] 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    Ugh! This is why we can't we have nice things.

    Send these idiots to 5th grade science class, and don't let them out until they pass with at least a C.

    We had a fairly popular game show here called Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?, and collectively, the answer is apparently "no, we're not".

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    [–] 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    JFC this again? I thought all these conspiracy wackadoos had moved on to dumber and crazier things.

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    [–] 32 points 2 years ago (17 children)

    God i wish my community fluoridated its water. Just had a kid, and anything to help prevent cavities is amazing, and low levels of floride is such an easy, risk free and cheap solution.

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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago

    Teeth....the haves vs. the haves not....another Florida experiment.

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    They should change nothing and say that they got rid of it. It's not like these people are smart enough to tell the difference.

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