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The White House on Tuesday condemned “death to America” chants that surfaced online from a recent rally in Dearborn, Mich., protesting Israel’s war in Gaza. 

Press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre replied, “yes” when asked if President Biden condemns the comments in the chants, which were captured on video by some attendees. 

“Peaceful protests are something that the president has also been very clear that, its important to give folks space to peacefully protest. But any type of violent rhetoric, we are going to denounce,” she said.

Dearborn mayor Abdullah Hammoud (D) has also denounced the chants, sharing in a statement on X that “Dearborn is a city of proud Americans.”

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Some basic questions to train your media literacy:

How many people, exactly, (or less ideally, roughly,) were doing this? (Article provides no answer.)

How often does this normally occur, esp. when it isn't a trendy topic? (Article provides no answer.)

Any similar events to provide context, perhaps give us clues about what to expect? (Article provides no answer.)

Was this a critical mass, or majority, of those present? (Article provides no answer.)

If you ask basic, perfectly reasonable questions, and then read the article, and see that it answers nothing an interested individual is curious about, you get suspicious about what you're reading. "Oh jeez, a thing happened, we have a thing, it involved people." Very cool, very news.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There was an article a couple months ago about "people" shouting death threats at Jewish people. It ended up being one dude.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Also, do you extend this level of courtesy to events that make your political opposition look bad? It's easy to find the energy and motivation when defending your team, but it rarely goes the other way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Yeah it gets much easier after lots of practice. But it's not 100%, which would be ideal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

It's somewhat frequent in Dearborn, at least once every time Israel/Palestine heats up. Pretty sure it happened at least once at a Talib rally.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 months ago (1 children)

At this point one should consider it could done by provocateurs.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

COINTELPRO never stopped

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

The US govt needs to get its shit together and deal with these major quality of life issues. The longer there is no response to massive protests the bigger, and likely, more violent these demonstrations will get. Who this violence will be caused by remains to be seen, but the larger the group of people gets, the easier it is to manipulate with panic/chaos.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That’s too extreme. “Seasonal allergies to America!” would be a more effective message that can attract moderate suburban voters.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Step in a puddle with socks to America!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Stub Your Toe! Stub Your Toe!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Pee your pants! Pee your pants!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah, no kidding it should be condemned.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

Passionate privileged youngsters have been known to do some very stupid things. I'd rather put it down to that than make a big deal out of it. They did apologize. Detroit Free Press https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2024/04/11/rally-organizers-say-death-to-america-chants-mistake/73285383007/

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Imagine living on a planet that's being cooked alive, a random executive in a board room can fire you for no reason, you're one missed paycheck away from being homeless, which itself is increasingly being criminalized, you'll never be able to own a house or pay off the loans society told you you had to take out when you were 18, you're one bad doctor's appointment from bankruptcy, your tax dollars are going to fund a genocide in Gaza, and the only socially acceptable option to contest any of it is voting once every few years.

How can you not actively support destroying the fundamentally illegitimate system that defines America?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah ...I hate to break it to you: these guys chanting death to America aren't on your side

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Soratoyuki, after America has been overthrown: "we did it, comrades!"

Religious zealots who took power: "send him to the camps too".

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (29 children)

Because chants of death to America isn't about destroying the system. It's about killing the people. How you don't get the difference is odd.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The White House on Tuesday condemned “death to America” chants that surfaced online from a recent rally in Dearborn, Mich., protesting Israel’s war in Gaza.

Press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre replied, “yes” when asked if President Biden condemns the comments in the chants, which were captured on video by some attendees.

The chants, which also included “Death to Israel,” took place at a rally on Friday to mark the International Day of Al-Quds, according to The Detroit News.

Fox2 reported that the chants came from members of the audience at the rally.

Dearborn, a Detroit suburb where Arab Americans make up the majority of the population, was under increased security in February after an op-ed in The Wall Street Journal called the city “America’s jihad capital.” Biden called out the “anti-Arab hate” against Dearborn at the time.

When questioned by Fox News’ Jacqui Heinrich about whether Biden is concerned if Dearborn faces a risk of becoming a hot bed for homegrown threats, Jean-Pierre reiterated that the White House denounces violence.


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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

This article seems dubious at best, but I always have to laugh when the White House condemns any form of protest. They only condone protests that don’t help the cause they’re protesting for and don’t scare the people in power. Why even bother asking if the people who are being protested at condemn the protest? It’s ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Of course they are. Even the idea that somebody might be one step closer to calling for a guillotine for the ruling elite is a threat that needs to be watched with all of the money not otherwise blowing up foreign countries. The crackdowns come next.

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