What is Ben Shapiro trying to say with that verse? That the Abrahamic God is not gender conforming since Genesis says that both Male and Female are images of God? So God is trans?
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His omnipotent and all-powerful god sure makes a lot of mistakes. Glad mine never does.
Technically it would make the Abrahamic God non-binary or gender-fluid, although I prefer the interpretation that there's no reasonable way to understand them except that human kind are the imperfect reflections of their image.
Abrahamic God is a hermaphrodite - male and female at the same time. Ben Shapiro is an idiot.
so if he "created them male AND female", then perhaps only transgender people are truly made in God's image
This is actually the opinion of the Bugis people of Indonesia. Only the Bissu, transgender priests, can talk to the gods.
Guys! Look at this translation of a translation of a translation that was written by people like me that supports my argument!!
What do these people think they're proving by quoting "the" Bible? There are no surviving original texts, and they sure as fuck weren't written in English. The guys who translated it weren't without their own agendas, either.
You're actually saying that the hebrew doesn't say the same thing? That's not a relevant argument, as it doesn't matter what its stance on trans people is, as its opinion doesn't matter anyway.
But it has a talking snake and donkey in it so it must be true
To be fair most modern publications of the bible are actually quite direct from the sauce, the NSRVUE in particular is a truly ecumenical source intended to provide an academic translation from the recent discoveries of the oldest sources currently available, including finds like the dead sea scrolls.
Member when God transitioned a male rib into a female
Member when Deus made a baby with no sperm (no Y chromosome) a boy?
That's not in the original canon, Jesus is the son of Joseph, being the son of God was an insertion to make the new religion more understandable to the hellenic world in which powerful mortals were almost always the product of a god making a child with a mortal.
Prior to that Jesus as God the Son was meant more that he was God incarnate as the child of Mary and Joseph, not as the literal child of God the Father since they're the same entity, you can't father yourself.
Really the trinity would probably be better set up as "God the Heavenly, God the Incarnate, and God the All Observant."
Far better describes what each actually does, one is the creator who reigns in heaven, one is the liberator from sins tied to your very bloodline via the liberation from original sin, and one is the all seeing presence who judges your moral character upon your death.
Yeah ok but Elohim is still 100% an enby anyway
This is the "first" creation story in genesis, describing the creation of Adam and Lilith, whom god made from dust at the same time. He turns Adam's rib into Eve later.
Notice they're not talking about evolution anymore, because they've handily lost that battle. The argument never changes, they just shift the context so they can keep making it
I don't even understand what the fuck he thinks he's arguing. Turnip brain.
I think, he hasn't parsed yet that trans is not a gender. In the twisted logic of his, a trans man for example is neither a man nor a woman.
He's never been the brightest knife in the attic
Isn’t Shapiro Jewish? Are there any differences in the human origin story in Judaism compared to the other Abrahamic religions?
If you mean Genesis, there isn't much difference between that and Bereishis, as far as I'm aware. And from what I've heard, Muslims believe Christianity is also true, but that Mohammed is simply a later prophet. But I'm far from an expert on this.
Islam believes in most of the Jesus story; that he was the Messiah, he was born of a virgin, and performed miracles. However it differs where they believe that Jesus is not the Son of God nor was he resurrected.
But yeah, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and Baha'i are the major Abrahamic religions and worship the same monotheistic God.
Judaism has two versions which have developed into a folkloric resolution of conflict.
The first version is what you know, but the second, which is actually canon to the Islamic version of Genesis, is that Adam and Eve were created simultaneously and co-equally.
More mystical sects of Judaism resolved the difference less by just picking one and more by saying that the woman who was made co-equal with Adam was a different woman named Lilith, and Eve was made from his rib.
Lilith is... complicated, depending on who's talking she's often considered a mythical mother of monsters because feminism and gender equality bad.
You know how Christians have an Old Testament and New Testament? That's because Jesus is introduced in the New Testament. Jewish people only use the Old Testament.
Ben Shapiro using pronouns, I'm telling!