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Representative Don Bacon, a Nebraska Republican, told NBC News' Kristen Welker on Sunday that according to lawyers hired by Congress, "at this point, there's not a specific crime that's been committed" by President Joe Biden in the impeachment probe against him.

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 7 months ago (3 children)

“Our guy did bad things, we do bad things, so ipso facto, Biden is doing bad things.”

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago

They want to imprint on the minds of their "poorly educated" base that Biden has some sort of connection to some sort of crime. Go down the list of dirty tricks - Republicans are using all of them.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

More like, “if we can accuse your guy of doing bad things, our guy(s) can do whatever they want and it’s even.”

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Its the only situation where they believe in equality

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

Not really, they want to get away with it while punishing Dems.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 7 months ago (3 children)

In case you need to be reminded, the point here is diluting the impact of conversations about "charges" so that they can say things like, "Biden charges didn't mean anything just like trump charges don't, America isn't interested in wasting time on this, let's move on"

Part of what fascism does is BREAK language.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

God this shitty red team needs to just deliver their report and go home.

And yeah, talking to fascists like they're people is playing into their shit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They're just blackhats at this point

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Seriously. Why are we still paying them for this shit?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I would say they still failed significantly, they wanted to at least get an impeachment in to be able to say that even trumps impeachments didnt really mean much either.

They may still be able to pivot as you indicated, but the fact that the impeachment process hasn't been minimized is a win for our country in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Haven't they tried to impeach a whole lot of people, just to make "an impeachment" somewhah normal?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

War is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength!

[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago

Breaking News! The GOP is full of shit and has been for decades. They have no policies, just bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The GOP will continue dragging out this investigation anyway, until they either find some actual dirt or create an artificial precedent that all presidents are under continuous investigation, thus discrediting any future impeachment procedure against their guy. Either way, It's a win.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This didn't work the first time with Clinton.

It's not "revenge" for impeaching Trump, it's revenge for Nixon. The Whitewater investigation didn't find anything until Monica Lewinsky. She actually wasn't even working at the White House when the investigation started.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The investigation wasn't even about her, it was about real estate I believe. They just wanted whatever they could get on him and he made the mistake of lying about something embarrassing which then became the issue... Not to defend him, lying is lying especially if there are laws against it in those situations.

So naturally the Republicans now go to "purgery trap! Purgery trap!" When impeachment is aimed at them because they know what they would do...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

She actually wasn’t even working at the White House when the investigation started.

Is this actually true? This is the first time I've ever heard this, would be shocking if so.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It surprises you that Republicans don't investigate in good faith? Ken Starr was the Whitewater investigator who continued the investigation after the previous one left. He was appointed a year before Monica Lewinsky arrived at the White House.

This is why Clinton's approval ratings went up after he was convicted of "perjury" for misleading an investigation into his private life. Should he have done it? No. Did the American public care? Hell no.

With the assistance of a family connection, Lewinsky secured an unpaid summer White House internship in the office of White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta. Lewinsky moved to Washington, D.C. and took up the position in July 1995.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Lewinsky

In August 1994, Republican Kenneth Starr[39] was appointed by a three-judge panel to continue the Whitewater investigation, replacing Republican Robert B. Fiske, who had been specially appointed by US attorney general Janet Reno, prior to the re-enactment of the Independent Counsel law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewater_controversy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It surprises you that Republicans don’t investigate in good faith?

No, just the timing.

She actually wasn’t even working at the White House when the investigation started.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I wonder what the bill is so far?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago

It's easy money for Republican lawyers and it confuses the cult base about the real criminal trying to avoid a trial.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago

This contrasts so well with the other candidate.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Look you have known knowns and known unknowns - that is, things that you know that you don't know - but then you have unknown unknowns - things that you don't know that you don't know.

Source: https://youtu.be/2msQwpzatQc

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Ah the ol' Rummy Defense.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

TOTAL EXONERATION !!!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

They will do literally everything but acknowledge their guy's huge laundry list of crimes

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You'd think we'd have at least acknowledged the problems with impeachment after Clinton got impeached for saying a BJ wasn't sex...

But that would require Dems to fix a problem with our government rather than ignore it as soon as it's not an immediate issue.

Our political system is fucked and we need a better one.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Clinton was impeached for perjury, which is a bit different. I don't think he should have been impeached, but Clinton did actually lie under oath about the affair.

Trump's crimes are significantly more serious, and numerous, and the GOP will forever be responsible for refusing to vote to convict.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (35 children)

He didn’t technically lie— not by congress’s definition of “sex” given. But they said he lied anyway and impeached him all the same.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Clinton did actually lie under oath about the affair.

He didn't, though. They asked if he had sex, he asked them what sex was, they told him, and he hadn't had sex based on that definition. They purposely equivocated on their definition of sex so that they could accuse him of lying.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I'm just adding this comment for engagement.

Any Finns here would appreciate me joking about how my vote was the 609th? Not because of 69, but because of 609_uu

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Representative Don Bacon, a Nebraska Republican, told NBC News' Kristen Welker on Sunday that according to lawyers hired by Congress, "at this point, there's not a specific crime that's been committed" by President Joe Biden in the impeachment probe against him.

The White House has repeatedly denied these claims, with President Biden saying that the impeachment inquiry against him is a "baseless political stunt."

Bacon told Welker on Meet the Press: "When I talked to the lawyers on the committee staff, they say at this point there's not a specific crime that's been committed."

"Why continue to waste millions of dollars of the taxpayers' money if we're going to impeach because you believe you've shown he's committed a high crime or misdemeanor.

Meanwhile, White House spokesperson Ian Sams called the invitation for the president to testify a "sad stunt at the end of a dead impeachment."

Meanwhile, Biden, the Democratic incumbent, is leading a reelection campaign against former President Donald Trump, who is the presumed 2024 Republican Presidential nominee.


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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Shocker! /s

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