I’ve noticed that on Lemmy there aren’t really any videos/gifs as I scroll. I just see post titles, links, or images.

Is there a reason videos and gifs aren’t showing up on my feed?

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[–] 158 points 3 years ago* (6 children)

Lemmy doesn't really support embedding videos yet. It's a highly requested festure so i think we can be assured it'll be here within a future update.

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  • [–] 92 points 3 years ago* (4 children)

    Quite possibly not. Remember that the admins running lemmy instances have very limited revenue so paying for servers is an issue. Some instances even encourage posting links instead of images to save on cost.

    Videos are in a league of their own when it comes to size and therefore the server power needed. Lemmy probably can't afford it. Its the prive we pay for no ads. You have to link videos.

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  • [–] 84 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Embedding videos doesn’t require local storage of videos. When you embed a YouTube video, you’re just linking a container which loads and displays the video from YouTube’s servers.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

    But that’s not really a feature of Lemmy itself, but the program reading it.

    For example, if I’m using a Lemmy app on my iPhone and I see a post with a YouTube link, the app is the one that needs to implement this embedded view feature.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 years ago

    Yes, but I assume the OP is referring to lemmy-ui, which is the built-in frontend for desktop and mobile in the browser, which does not at this point support dynamic conversion of youtube links to embed cards AFAIK. App support of embeds will obviously be on a app-to-app basis.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago

    Yeah, my instance has a 100kb file size limit on images and recommends posting links as well. Not sure how that’s gonna play out long term. With sites like gfycat shutting down and nuking their content, I wonder if we’re exiting the era of free hosting and sharing as well.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I'm not sure if Lemmy already does it or not but I wouldn't mind if it also compressed attached pictures to save on storage and bandwidth like some other forums does (eg compress picture to <1mb).

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    [–] 35 points 3 years ago (11 children)

    GIFs work. At least in the comments they do. Videos can be (somewhat) embedded if you use an external host (i.e. catbox).

    GIF sample:

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  • [–] 26 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    I'm a bitter old man who dislikes inline gifs in the comments, is there a way to block it like I did with RES on Reddit?

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago

    You can use a userscript manager like greasymonkey to inject a javascript snippet that will hide images in comments which have obvious urls to gifs and replace them with actual links or hide them

    here an example snippet:

    (() => {
      let timerID;
      function onChange() {
        Array.from(document.querySelectorAll('.comment-node img[src$=".gif"]')).forEach((e) => {
          const src = e.getAttribute('src');
          if (typeof src === 'string' && src.startsWith('http')) {
            e.setAttribute('src', '');
            const a = document.createElement('a');
            a.innerText = 'link to gif';
            a.href = src;
            e.parentNode.appendChild(a);
          }
        });
      }
      // if we have many mution events, wait until the site has settled
      function delayed_onChange() {
    	  clearTimeout(timerID);
    	  timerID = setTimeout(onChange, 500);
      }
      function init() {
    	  // start observer
    	  new MutationObserver(delayed_onChange).observe(document.body, {
    	    attributes: false,
    	    childList: true,
    	    subtree: true,
    	  });
    	  delayed_onChange();
      }
      setTimeout(init, 500);
    })();
    
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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago*

    I’m a bitter old man who dislikes inline gifs in the comments

    I've waffled on this issue over the last 25 years, but agree that the option to show/block should still exist.

    First I was against it.

    • Mostly because it was change - cluttering my once pristine BBSs

    Then I enjoyed it.

    • Because it added some liveliness to the threads I read, and because I was in a smaller collective of folks that knew how to do it without being annoying.

    Then I was against it again.

    • Because the forums/boards because overstuffed with people shitposting ONLY animated gifs.
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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    It's not a gif for me, just a still image.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    What client are you using? It plays as a GIF on the browser but it might be a still image in a mobile app.

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    [–] 21 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    I'm waiting for

    • Instant Regret
    • What could go wrong (it's there but not much input)
    • Damn that's interesting
    • Public Freakout

    Or some funny fail videos

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    [+] 18 points 3 years ago (6 children)
  • [–] 27 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It will. Reddit only added video hosting in the past couple years. Before that, everyone just linked imgur and other hosting sites.

    I bet the largest servers will eventually have their own hosting platform too, but for now it’s one of the growing pains.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Hosting videos requires a lot of storage, before reddit hosting images/videos most used services where imgur, streamable, gifycat...

    On small instances hosting videos could be an issue with storage and bandwidth, hosting externally is always a best option

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    The whole thing is really a bit ironic. Market analysis shows that video content makes users stay longer, so Reddit pushes for more video content. Hosting video content is expensive, so Reddit pushes to make more money off users. Users get fed up and leave.

    I guess peertube is the example to look at now for video hosting in the Fediverse. It's a complicated challenge for sure.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Ironically, reddit did just fine without hosting videos for... Well, like ten years.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago*

    Who says Lemmy should/must/has to be a "serious Reddit replacement?"
    Who decides on what features it needs to be a "serious Reddit replacement?"

    It has already replaced Reddit for me with it's current feature set (I'm just waiting for my GDPR export to go through to bail out from there),

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    I suspect certain video oriented communities will go elsewhere. /r/combatfootage was my only Reddit video community, so it hasn't impacted me much.

    I'm running !spacemusic@lemmy.ca now which occasionally links to YouTube videos when other sources aren't easy to find. We will see how that goes.

    Probably features will get added over time. Maybe the federated video hosting stuff will take off some day. But from a bandwidth perspective, that might be hard for these volunteer run servers to handle.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (5 children)

    Q: why do we need native hosting?

    IMO, adding native video support was a huge blunder on Reddit's part, and the expense of it is likely a factor in how desperate they are to squeeze money from their users now.

    Let Lemmy and Kbin do what they are good at: aggregating links. Let others be good at hosting videos.

    If the Web client can eventually be improved to properly embed Vimeo/YouTube/etc links so they can be played inline, that seems like a good enough experience to me. Making a good video player is hard. Reddit's native player sucks and Lemmy/Kbin are open source with even less resources.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago

    It will. Reddit only added video hosting in the past couple years. Before that, everyone just linked imgur and other hosting sites.

    I bet the largest servers will eventually have their own hosting platform too, but for now it’s one of the growing pains.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (4 children)

    If those video-heavy communities want to host their own instances and cover the cost of hosting those videos, then that would be cool.

    The thing with individual- and community-based hosting, though, is that the hidden costs of the social web become visible very quickly. Those were externalized to the VC backed vultures, and now those vultures are clamping down on us and demanding their fill.

    We paid a price for things like free video hosting. Now we're aware of the costs and need to make conscious decisions around it, not friction free ones.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago*

    Video centric subs existed before Reddit added their own hosting service. Just use a 3rd party service like YouTube. Or setup your own instance and pay for the hosting costs.

    Reddit adding video hosting was probably the beginning of the downfall of Reddit. Hosting videos is expensive. So the focus shifted to milking more money out of the users

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    I have seen couple videos, one was a drone killing Russian soldiers, other ones were for porn. So it may just be lack of interest, or lack of convenience to share videos.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago

    What I would do is upload videos to peertube instance (the peertube servers are better equipped for storing videos and most of them are free + offer more or less unlimited storage) and for pictures use plethora or pixelfied. Lemmy and mastodon are just one aspect of the whole fediverse, there's all sorts of instanced equipped to be all sorts of things https://fediverse.info/

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Didn't one of the larger gif sites announce their discontinuation?

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

    You can go to/c/kidsbeingderps to see some gifs in action. It’s a new community so there’s not much, but hope it grows. Using Memmy app, I can see the gifs in action as I scroll, similar to Apollo.

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