The cure to transphobia comes in 50 caliber doses
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ugh i don’t really like this comment :(
a) that’s a pesticide sprayer, not a gun
b) the cure to violent transphobia for sure is violence.
but the cure to transphobia, in general?
idk. i have loved ones who used to be worse and gradually came around just by living and knowing trans people? what if they got shot 25 years ago?
no hate to you as a commenter bc it seems you are just repeating a common phrase, but i don’t like how this comment moves the narrative so far beyond. idk, i don’t really like this comment but i don’t want to invalidate the anger, fear and genuine need for change that is behind it. i’m sorry if my perspective is ignorant.
i like to posit that the cure to stupidity comes in death.
That saying has a myriad of flexible interpretations, it's fun.
Fascism will exterminate itself. It's an auto-cannibalistic ideology.
To the Nazi mind, society is like the rings on a tree with the "pure" and "deserving" being at the core. The outer most layer will always be the "other" and the "enemy". So as each enemy is defeated, the field narrows until the end where they'd be two Nazis left trying to kill each other.
Viewed in this light, anti-Fascist skull crushing is benevolent.
I don't disagree with you, but I think what you wrote only applies to fascism in a vacuum or a very late stage of fascism where all the outsiders were eliminated. Basicaly, if we're at the point where fascists started devouring themself it's already game over, because everything else is destroyed. And I don't like the sentence "Fascism will exterminate itself" because it implies all we need to do is wait (even though I don't think you mean that). Fascism needs a helping hand to achieve it's end goal (exterminating itself; please, don't ban me mods lol).
That mentality is surely broader than fascism itself. You see it in any hypernationalist state. Rome had "the barbarians." The British Empire had "the savages." Nazi Germany had "the jews." There is always an "other" when the state needs it. Unless you're painting a broader form of fascism, perhaps.
Well... the gruesome thing is: It will exterminate itself in the same way the plague exterminated itself in Europe. Eventually, all the fascism will lead to a myriad of wars and genocides in which fascism will eventually die. Along billions of people.
billions, you say?
honestly if the fascists got their way we would probably eventually see everyone dead but a few bankers or something
that would still be billions.
i doubt there are a few billion bankers
How about we start exterminating it right now to prevent the deaths of billions, at the low low cost of a couple of fascist's lifes? All in favour?
Here are the things that get you banned:
- authoritarian behavior
favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom.
The only thing I can come up with is you're defending people's personal freedom to be fascists?
Not being shot, at least.
If your opposed to calls to violence against those that are trying to take away trans rights that's fine. I'm just curious about calling authoritarianism.
In calling for violence against fascists...who's authority are we upholding?
Enforcing your preferred kind of politics with guns sounds like a bad idea. I’m German, we did that a few times in our history.
Wait... I'm sorry I have to respond again because this really just hit me. Did you really use GERMANY as an example of why you SHOULD NOT stand up to facisim with violence? GERMANY???
How did letting the facisim play out for ya there champ?
The street fights in 1932 did not do much to prevent fascism, to say the least.
Sounds like they should have tried harder.
Sounds like they should've had guns
Probably.
Yet here you are saying if you stand up to fascism with violence you're being authoritative.
Because my country has seen what happens when political disagreements are fought out in months of street battles.
And the world has seen what happens because you gave up on those fights.
The street fights in 1932 did not do much to prevent fascism, to say the least.
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I wouldn't be so proudly proclaiming "I'm German" as if that gives you automatic and universal knowledge, or authority, if you'd like, on, well, anything, if I were you, instead I'd get out of the way, humble myself, and go study some history.
"Only one thing could have stopped our movement – if our adversaries had understood its principle and from the first day smashed with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement." -Adolf Hitler
Oi, can you perhaps not ask for humility and then condescendingly lecture other people about the history of their Nations? Thanks.
I bet you know about the armed conflicts in the streets of Germany before the Nazis were elected into power and the role of the SA, right? And you know that what's was implied here was that the Weimarer Republik tried to "reign in" the Nazis instead of opposing them openly, especially the catholic Zentrum party. And you know that behind the war-like rhetoric of Hitler there is usually a kernel of political nature, and his warmongering style is identical if he talks about real armed conflict or political stuff, right?
You know all that so you can lecture Germans on German history, right?... Right?
Stepping out of the way is the exact opposite of what should be done. This may never happen ever again.
having interacted with an austrian, whom i refer to as german on the regular (it's an ongoing joke) It's almost like that one time that one thing happened is a part of every german/austrias personality now. That explicit kind of speech is so heavily regulated that even merely mentioning it i've been yelled at before.
It's kind of like living somewhere where a mass shooting has happened, that you were tangentially related to. Nobody talks about it. But also everybody knows about it.
Sure. That's fine. I'm questioning how you call that authoritism. Would you call the black panthers this? After all they certainly did some violent things during the civil rights movements.
What about the IRA?
Combating fascism at embracing it are two wildly different things, any appearance otherwise is simply superficial
Enforcing your preferred kind of politics with guns sounds like a bad idea. I’m German, we did that a few times in our history.
Yeah, and people with guns fucking stopped you.
it's a paradox by nature, either you let them take rule, and then you get a german history moment, or you forcibly oust them, which is also kind of tangential to said german history moment.
I suppose it's a question of which you value more, and how many of your people are ok with it.
in essence, that statement essentially says "you can listen to authority, and have to follow them, however, in exchange for that trade off, you no longer have the personal freedom of not doing that"
Have tolerant people to be tolerant towards the intolerant? This question has claimed the coherence of so many philosopher's brains. Poor souls.
The "paradox of tolerance" has never legitimately stumped anyone. The initial act of intolerance broke the social contract, thus removing their right to tolerance themselves.
If only someone had taught them about social contracts, which only conditionally requires us to tolerate people so long as they tolerate us.
this is my favorite philosophical fact. You can only have a defined definition if that definition excludes things, otherwise it is not appropriately defined. And therefore broad.
This seems fine.
that’s wacky.
everyone is authoritarian.
Just load the sprayer with hormones and see how things turn out
Dale Gribble would definitely be all about Alex Jones and Q-Anon
Too bad America has 2 of them as options
Two far right one party authoritarian nationalist with a dictatorsl?
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