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AKA "surprisingly, oligopolies are there to make money and care about their customers just enough not to pee on their faces while someone else is looking".

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago

I’m shocked, shocked I tell you!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago

OMG having a sales target causes people to push the things that help them meet their sales target? How could we possibly have predicted that?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Interesting article, but nowhere near what Wells Fargo was doing. They had institutionalized their fake account openings. The average customer had 8 accounts (including checking, savings, credit cards, mortgages, etc.). That's obviously too many.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Unrelated to the topic at hand, but I have something like 11 accounts with Tangerine (they're free). It's convenient for budgeting for different things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I was gonna say I have 7 accounts. A lot of free ones labeled "vacation" "house projects" "emergencies"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Exactly, and everything is automated so a percentage of my paycheck gets automatically sorted into each one. It's great.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

grr, I hate you guys. You make me feel so disorganized! Why hadn't I thought of this type of thing?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's mostly out of laziness! I'm a big fan of "set it and forget it" approaches to life. It also helps keep track of finances and prevents splurges you can't afford. If I have $300 in my "travel" account, I'm not going to go on a $1500 trip.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Tangerine rocks, but their customer service can be... Hilarious.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

So… we should allow them to keep going until it gets that bad?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm lucky to have a lot of savings. I regularly get calls and emails from Scotiabank telling me to buy mutual funds and increase my credit limit. I always figured that if someone contacts you saying they have an offer that will make you a lot of money, they're lying. CBC seems to confirm that.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you have a notable amount in savings, investing it in some way is generally a good idea, but I agree with not trusting your bank to steer you right.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I do. It's in GICs at 5.25% interest. The bank wants me to switch it to mutual funds with a 2% management fee.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

All-equity mutual funds net fees will, on average, return more than 5ΒΌ%. (Should be about 7-8% on average). That said, that comes with a lot of volatility (value fluctuations) and you can expect sometime in the next 50 years to have a year that's down as much as 50%, but over the same 50 years it will outperform any GIC.

They're still a terrible product, though. An ETF will do the same, but be worth about 3-4Γ— as much after 50 years due to mutual fund fees eating most of the compound gains.

Anyway, the ethics of mutual funds are why I quit the finance industry before even really getting started in it. I did financial analytics as a co-op student for one of the major banks in the mutual funds group and had the skills and connections to make a career in finance, but I couldn't stomach making a career working on financial products that are predatory.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I closed my accounts at TD years ago because I was tired of sales pitches every time I went into the bank for any reason.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Tiddy bank?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Opolies suck.