[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 hours ago

If mods aren't games, then gravity doesn't work on Fridays. Dumb arbitrary restrictions being pulled out of nowhere.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

I'll probably watch it but it lost the shine from s1.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago

It is not impressive, but it makes the rest of the output even worse. You're expected to treat the bot's output as human language, but it doesn't make sense like language would: it identifies the soy sauce, it should be able to identify the bowl is empty, no change happened, and yet it's still babbling that the guy "already combined the base ingredients".

[-] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago

[Guy] Spank me, daddy!
[Zuckerberg] Current location of your male parent required as further info.
[Guy] Ah, come on, just hit me Zucky~
[Zuckerberg punches the guy on the teeth]
[Guy] BLAME THE WIFI! BLAME THE WIFI!

...sorry I couldn't resist.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Senku was petrified for seven years.

The wiki says Suika was 12 when everyone was petrified, 18 afterwards, so it took her six years. Based on vegetation growth and my eyeballed estimates it would be four instead; the tower looks ~8m tall and lianas grow ~3m/year, so it would take them at least three years to reach the top.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

We got it. We're roughly at chapter 196.

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Transcript:

  • [guy] Hey, Meta, start LiveAI.
  • [two centuries later...]
  • [robot] Starting LiveAI. I love the setup you have here with soy sauce and other ingredients. How can I help?
  • [guy] Hey, can you help me make a Korean-inspired steak sauce for my steak sandwich here?
  • [robot] You can make a Korean-inspired steak sauce using soy sauce, sesame oil...
  • [guy, interrupting bot] What do I do first?
  • [three centuries later...]
  • [guy, repeating] What do I do first?
  • [robot] You've already combined the base ingredients, so now grate a pear to add to the sauce.
  • [guy] What do I do first?
  • [audience laughs]
  • [robot] You’ve already combined the base ingredients, so now grate the pear [audience laughs] and gently combine it with the base sauce.
  • [guy] Alright, I think the Wi-Fi might be messed up. Sorry, back to you, Mark!
  • ~~[robot LARPing as a guy]~~ [Mark Zuckerberg] It's all good. Youknowwhat? It's all good. The irony of the whole thing is that you spend years making technology and then the Wi-Fi at the e[nd of the] day kinda catches you.

My comments:

  1. Wi-Fi my arse. This is blatantly bull fucking shit. The model answered the situation wrong; it is able to parse individual items in the footage (note how it praises the "setup" at the start), but it babbles about the guy combining the base ingredients even if not the case.
  2. Bot feels like a slowpoke. Seriously, it takes ages to answer the guy.
  3. Anyone with a functional brain knows those models don't understand shit. However, answering "what do I do first?" with the assumption a person already did some steps is dumb even for those models.
  4. People don't repeat questions to get the same answer. Is the "context" window of the bot that small?
[-] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

I liked it. It was obvious for the viewers, but Suika was still a child, and it's how children think - they want easy and fast solutions. It also shows well that with science you don't get ir right the first time, you need to be a bit stubborn.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

The core argument of the text isn't even arms race, like yours. It's basically "if you can't get it 100% accurate then it's pointless lol lmao". It's simply a nirvana fallacy; on the same level of idiocy as saying "unless you can live forever might as well die as a baby".


With that out of the way, addressing your argument separately: the system doesn't need to be 100% accurate, or perfectly future-proof, to be still useful. It's fine if you get some false positives and negatives, or if you need to improve it further to account for newer models evading detection.

Accuracy requirements depend a lot on the purpose. For example:

  • you're using a system to detect AI "writers" to automatically permaban them - then you need damn high accuracy. Probably 99.9% or perhaps even higher.
  • you're using a system to detect AI "writers", and then manually reviewing their submissions before banning them - then the accuracy can be lower, like 90%.
  • you aren't banning anyone, just trialling what you will / won't read - then 75% accuracy is probably enough.

I'm also unsure if it's as simple as using the detection tool to "train" the generative tool. Often I notice LLMs spouting nonsense the same model is able to call out afterwards as nonsense; this hints that generating content with certain attributes is more complex than detecting if some content lacks them.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

[Posting this in a separated comment to not confuse rikka]

This scene was bloody amazing. A damn great adaptation of the manga:



[-] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

The anime expanded the time Suika is alone in the world; it was just three chapters (194~196), but we got a full episode out of it.

And I'm glad it did. It doesn't change the plot at all, but it gives Suika's time alone a well-deserved depth.

Sure, she woke up all alone, just like Senku did seven years earlier. But unlike Senku she was still a child, and the episode showed well how lonely and vulnerable she felt. (Specially the part where she hugs Kohaku's statue.) And Suika was never shown to be a talented scientist or anything similar; she didn't even get modern education. And yet she was able to make the revival fluid. It plays really well with the theme of the anime, on science being not quite the result of a few talented individuals, but of knowledge accumulated over time: previous knowledge (Senku notes), failures (the rain over the nitrate crystals), and eventually success.

By far one of the best episodes I watched this season.

@[email protected]

[-] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago

[OP, sorry for the harsh words. They're directed at the text and not towards you.]

To be blunt this "essay" is a pile of shit. It's so bad, but so bad, that I gave up dissecting it. Instead I'll list the idiocies = fallacies = disingenuous arguments it's built upon:

  • Nirvana idiocy = fallacy: "unless its perfect than its useless lol lmao".
  • Begging the question: being trained on [ipsis ungulis] "the entire corpus of human output" with enough money to throw at it won't "magically" make AI output indistinguishable from human generated content.
  • Straw man: if the author is going to distort the GPTZero FAQ, to double down on the nirvana idiocy, they should at least clip the quote further, to not make it so obvious. There's a bloody reason the FAQ is focusing on punishment.

Note nirvana fallacy is so prevalent, but so prevalent, that once you try to remove it the text puffs into nothing. The whole text is built upon it. (I'm glad people developing anti-spam systems don't take the same idiocy seriously, otherwise our mailboxes would be even worse than they already are.)

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The spiders in question are Stegodyphus dumicola aka African social spiders.

I couldn't find a link to the video in the article itself so here it is. Discretion is advised - it is fascinating and horrifying at the same time.

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Interesting short text about the history of Finnish, focusing mostly on its interaction with nearby Germanic languages.

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Archive link: https://archive.is/20240503184140/https://www.science.org/content/article/human-speech-may-have-universal-transmission-rate-39-bits-second

Interesting excerpt:

De Boer agrees that our brains are the bottleneck. But, he says, instead of being limited by how quickly we can process information by listening, we're likely limited by how quickly we can gather our thoughts. That's because, he says, the average person can listen to audio recordings sped up to about 120%—and still have no problems with comprehension. "It really seems that the bottleneck is in putting the ideas together."

Ah, here's a link to the paper!

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I regret not posting it before Canvas 2025, but hopefully it'll be useful for people playing it in 2026. All letters are 5 pixels tall, and most 3 pixels wide (some 4, a few 5). I've also included a few Cyrillic letters and the digits.

I tried to make it even smaller, but it gets really funky.

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Interesting video on the stone that allowed researchers to decipher Ancient Egyptian. Check comments for a few notes.

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Additional links with press coverage: ArcheologyMag, Oxford.

For context:

The Huns were nomadic people from Central Eurasia; known for displacing a bunch of Iranian (e.g. Alans) and and Germanic (e.g. Goths, Suebians etc.) speakers, that ultimately invaded the Roman Empire. They reached the Volga around 370 CE, and one of their leaders (Attila) is specially famous. Often believed to be a Turkic people, but if the study is correct they're from a completely different language family instead.

The Xiōng-Nú are mentioned by Chinese sources as one of the "Five Barbarians" (i.e. non-Han people). They would've lived in Central Eurasia between 300 BCE and 100 CE or so, and eventually became Han tributaries.

The Paleo-Siberian language in question would be an older form of Arin, a Yeniseian language. Yup, that same family believed by some to have relatives in the Americas.

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For further info, if anyone is interested, Stephen Bax claimed a decade ago to partially decode the manuscript; here's a video with his reasoning, as well as the paper he released. Sadly Bax passed away in 2017 (may he rest in peace), so the work was left incomplete.

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The main idea behind this language is to become evolutionary food for other languages of my conworld. As such I'll probably never flesh it out completely, only the necessary to make its descendants feel a bit more natural.

Constructive criticism is welcome.

Context and basic info

The conworld I'm building has three classical languages, spoken 2~3 millenniums before the conworld present: Old Sirtki, Classical Tarune, and Mäkşna. And scholars in the conworld present are reconstructing their common ancestor, that they call "Proto-Sitama".

What I'm sharing here, however is none of their fancy reconstructions. It's the phonology of the language as it was spoken 7 millenniums before the conworld present. Its native name was /kʲær.mi.'zɑst/, or roughly "what we speak"; the language itself had no written version but it'll be romanised here as ⟨Cjermizást⟩.

Its native speakers were a semi-nomadic people, who lived mostly of livestock herding. They'd stay in a region with their herds, collect local fruits and vegetables, and then migrate for more suitable pasture as their animals required.

It was quite a departure from the lifestyle of their star travelling ancestors, who were born in a highly industrialised society in another planet.

Grammar tidbits

Grammar-wise, Cjermizást was heavily agglutinative, with an absolutive-ergative alignment and Suffixaufnahme. So typically you'd see few long polymorphemic words per sentence. Those morphemes don't always "stack" nicely together, so you often see phonemes being elided, mutated, or added to the word.

Consonants

Manner \ Set Hard Soft
Nasals /m n/ /mʲ ɲ/
Voiceless stop /p t k/ /pʲ tʲ kʲ/
Voiced stop /b d g/ /bʲ dʲ gʲ/
Voiceless fric. /ɸ s x/ /fʲ ʃ ç/
Voiced fric. /w z ɣ/ /vʲ ʒ j/
Liquids /l r/ /ʎ rʲ/

Cjermizást features a contrast between "soft" and "hard" consonants. "Soft" consonants are palatalised, palatal, or post-alveolar; "hard" consonants cannot have any of those features. Both sets are phonemic, and all those consonants can surface outside clusters.

Palatalised consonants spawn a really short [j], that can be distinguished from true /j/ by length.

Although /j/ and /w/ are phonetically approximants, the language's phonology handles them as fricatives, being paired with /ɣ/ and /vʲ/ respectively.

/r rʲ/ surface as trills or taps, in free variation. The trills are more typical in simple onsets, while the taps in complex onsets and coda.

The contrast between /m n/ is neutralised when preceding another consonant in the same word, since both can surface as [m n ŋ]; ditto for /mʲ nʲ/ surfacing as [mʲ ɱʲ ɲ].

Coda /g/ can also surface as [ŋ], but only in word final position; as such, it doesn't merge with the above.

Liquids clustered with voiceless fricatives and/or stops have voiceless allophones.

Vowels

Proto-Sitama's vowel system is a simple square: /æ i ɒ u/. They have a wide range of allophones, with three situations being noteworthy:

  • /ɒ u/ are typically fronted to [Œ ʉ] after a soft consonant
  • /æ i/ are backed to [ɐ ɪ] after a hard velar
  • unstressed vowels are slightly centralised

Accent

Accent surfaces as stress, and it's dictated by the following rules:

  1. Some suffixes have an intrinsic stress. If the word has 1+ of those, then assign the primary stress to the last one. Else, assign it to the last syllable of the root.
  2. If the primary stress fell on the 5th/7th/9th/etc.-to-last syllable, move it to the 3rd-to-last
  3. If the primary stress fell on the 4th/6th/8th/etc.-to-last syllable, move it to the 2nd-to-last.
  4. Every two syllables, counting from the one with the primary stress, add a secondary stress.

Phonotactics

Max syllable is CCVCC, with the following restrictions:

  • complex onset: [stop] + [liquid]; e.g. /pl/ is a valid onset, */pw/ isn't
  • complex coda: [liquid or nasal] + [stop or fricative]; e.g. /nz/ is a valid coda, */dz/ isn't

If morphology would create a syllable violating such structure, an epenthetic /i/ dissolves the cluster.

Consonant clusters cannot mix hard and soft consonants. When such a mix would be required by the morphology, the last consonant dictates if the whole cluster should be soft or hard, and other consonants are mutated into their counterparts from the other set. For example, */lpʲ/ and */ʃp/ would be mutated to /ʎpʲ/ and /sp/.

Stops and fricatives clustered together cannot mix voice. Similar to the above, the last consonant of the cluster dictates the voicing of the rest; e.g. */dk/ and */pz/ would be converted into /tk/ and /bz/ respectively.

Gemination is not allowed, and two identical consonants next to each other are simplified into a singleton. Nasal consonants are also forbidden from appearing next to each other, although a cluster like /nt.m/ would be still valid.

Word-internal hiatuses are dissolved with an epenthetic /z/. Between words most speakers use a non-phonemic [ʔ], but some use [z] even in word boundaries.

Romanisation

As mentioned at the start, the people who spoke Cjermizást didn't write their own language. As such the romanisation here is solely a convenience.

  • /m n p t b d g s x w z l r/ are romanised as in IPA
  • /k ɸ ɣ/ are romanised ⟨c f y⟩
  • "soft" consonants are romanised as their "hard" counterparts, plus ⟨j⟩
  • ⟨j⟩ is omitted inside clusters; e.g. /pʲʎ/ is romanised as ⟨plj⟩, not as *⟨pjlj⟩
  • /æ i ɒ u/ are ⟨e i a u⟩
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