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No, I was already convinced that relying on colour alone is insufficient. I still think they can be useful helpful if they don't rely on colour alone.
True, there are exceptions (that's why I keep saying most), and I think the pattern is more common on web than on desktop. (Though I think Gnome also compensates a bit with their boxed lists as an additional affordance.)
Note that I am 100% on your side in saying that there are annoying toggle boxes that are unclear. In your image, I can only tell that the second is probably on because the right-hand side is usually used for the on state in LTR locales. But they can be better, e.g. with an on/off label integrated. Ironically, GNOME has a toggle to enable this:
Well, I'd encourage you to keep an eye out; I think you'll find that the majority of controls on the web behave as I described. And I think that's a good thing, too: it's far quicker and easier to be able to deduce behaviour from the control you're handling at the moment, than having to scan the complete context. And especially if e.g. you're visually impaired, the latter can be a major hassle.
(And indeed, the other controls you mention almost never apply instantly, so their behaviour is still predictable. When they do, they'll often still have some other affordances to indicate that they do apply instantly.)
I was trying to make the point that the way a control looks gives you some information on how it will behave, because software has generally been consistent with associating those looks with those behaviours.
So if you see multiple options with a circle in front of them, selecting one, then selecting another will usually deselect the first one.
On the other hand, if those options have squares in front of them, selecting one, then selecting another will usually result in both of them being selected.
And in both cases, usually they will be part of a form and will only take effect when you submit that form using a button.
On the other hand, something that looks like a toggle usually takes effect immediately on toggling.
Of course it is technically always possible to have each of those behave like any of the others, but you will be breaking conventions if you do so. Styling is an affordance to inform the user about the behaviour.
The Louvre has two paintings with that name it seems, but I'm guessing it must be this one (this is the other one).
And then there's Toto, who actually have a million hits, but each of them feels like it must be some band's one-hit wonder, until you find out that it's another Toto song.
I might be a little more informed because I'm Dutch, but Vermeer is fairly well-known, and e.g. The Milkmaid and View of Delft are, I believe, other fairly famous paintings of his (albeit less famous than The Girl with the Pearl Earring).
Vermeer might have been a pupil of Carel Fabritius, who was a pupil of Rembrandt. The interesting thing about Fabritius is that many of his paintings got destroyed in an explosion (that also killed Fabritius), and only about a dozen remain. Which I think is also mind-blowing: this potential important link between two famous painters might very well himself have produced such wonders, but we'll never know.
(If you're ever in the area, I would highly recommend a visit to the Mauritshuis in The Hague. And if you like reading, The Goldfinch (referencing the Fabritius painting) by Donna Tartt is the novel that got me into all this in the first place.)
I mean, they can, and they can also be made to be mutually exclusive - but it's better to use radio buttons in that case. If that pattern is used, there's not really a good way that a checkbox will take effect immediately beforehand, or whether it will require submitting a form, except scanning the full page to look for such a button.
I was thinking "woah, time doesn't pass that fast", but this time, it actually doesn't. Snowden's whistleblowing was in 2013, so 13 years ago.
Thanks for organising!
From the earlier post: https://d2jam.com/c/lemmyvision-3
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Lemmyvision 3 is now live!
(thelemmy.club)
cross-posted from: https://jlai.lu/post/35451902
Hey everyone!
The very real, not fish-themed Lemmyvision returns for its third edition! For those not in the loop, read below to learn more about this Lemmy Event:
TL;DR
- From right now and until May 3rd, discuss with your Lemmy instance or community about which song to send to the contest.
- Submit the song in this community by making a new thread.
- On May 4th, voting will begin. You will rank your favourite songs in a form. Any song not submitted by this date will not be featured.
- On May 11th, results of everyone’s favourite songs will be published.
- You can use !lemmyvision@jlai.lu for any question, this will be the community for updates and results, make sure to subscribe if you’d like to stay in the loop.
What is Lemmyvision?
Lemmyvision is inspired from Eureddision (itself a reenactment of the Eurovision song contest) which was held on r/europe some years ago, and based on the participation of national communities / instances and the delicate musical taste of their members (you!).
Every country/community is welcome to participate! The contest follows the rule of “national languages only” but regional languages are welcome as well! Basque, Welsh, Cherokee… you’re welcome to promote a non official language if your community / instance wants to. The aim is to promote different languages and cultures from around the world, to share more between our online communities across Lemmy, and discover songs from lesser known artists.
How it works:
This post, and the !lemmyvision@jlai.lu community will be open until May 3rd, and I will start promoting the event on various instances and communities. Lemmy communities who want to participate have the responsibility to gather its members and vote on a single song to send for the contest.
On May 4th, the songs will be locked in. A playlist will be created to allow you to listen to all of the submitted songs, and everyone will be invited to vote on their favourite. The voting is estimated to last for about a week. On May 11th the results will be published, with a ranking of everyone’s favourite songs!
For the second edition, lemmy.ca was allowed to send three songs, each one in a different language (French Canadian, English, and Inuktitut, in their case). This means your community can send multiple songs if you want to showcase its different languages!
For the first edition, an exception was made for the programming.dev Lemmy community to participate by sending a song related to their main interest (they sent a video game soundtrack). If your instance or community does not represent a specific country or language but wants to participate by sending a song related to your instance center of interest, you’re welcome to do so! For example, lemmy.blahaj.zone could send a song composed by a Queer person!
I don’t expect countries with a “small” population to be accurately represented on Lemmy, so no worries if you don’t have a community and are just a small group of people, or if your country is not even on Lemmy but another platform (Kbin and whatnot), I can make exceptions, just reach out!
Song submission:
- Each Lemmy community is responsible for their own organization.
- Only one (1) song per language per community is to be sent.
- If the song contains vocals then it must be in (one of) the official language(s) of your choice, or a regional language of your choice.
- Songs must have been released after January 1st, 2025.
- Songs must not be international hits[1].
- Submit your songs in their own thread in this community
- Verification will just require a link to the discussion thread created within your community, to ensure it’s a community (not a single person’s) decision.
[1] this is to prevent drama that happened in the past on Reddit, where Germany sent a Rammstein song and obviously won. It’s up to my own appreciation of what international hit means, because it’s hard to measure (metrics on different streaming platforms aren’t the same), but I’m pretty lenient, just ask me if you’re not sure, better to discuss than argue
Voting:
- Voting will be done through a form created on tally.so.
- I will set up the form near the end of the month, and share it in a new announcement post when the time has come.
- If you’re worried about privacy, there will be no questions about personal data, and last year I deleted the form and its results a week after the event was done.
On Federation:
I don’t discriminate based on instances, if your account is not on the same instance as your community, that’s totally fine. Additionally, if you’re on another Fediverse/Activitypub platform and would like to participate, and you’re able to federate with your representing Lemmy community, you’re welcome to join us, I’d just like to keep organization within Lemmy so it’s easier to track participations.
Would you like to help?
The first two editions went really well, and I managed to handle the whole thing alone. Programming.dev even helped with setting up the playlist during Lemmyvision 1! If you’d like to help in any way, please feel free to reach out, I’d love to have as many people as possible involved!!
Cheers!
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Reminder: morgen zijn er gemeenteraadsverkiezingen. Plan alvast waar en wanneer je gaat stemmen.
(waarismijnstemlokaal.nl)
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"Oh Deep Thought, what is the ultimate answer to the problem of the climate crisis?"
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Interestingly the European Rail Passengers Union (@erpu@eupolicy.social) isn't wholly positive; see this thread: https://eupolicy.social/@erpu/116566721075134554
Apparently it's still going to be quite a bit of work to find the best place to buy a ticket if your trip crosses more than one border, and your existing discounts are unlikely to apply.
Still, it will hopefully be an improvement over the situation today.