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OK but US military support for Israel hasn't dropped below $3,000,000,000 since 1975 (source: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts )
Why aren't you mad at Trump for militarily supporting Israel? Why aren't you upset at Obama? Why no anger for Bush? Was Clinton's sax solo THAT good? What about Bush, Reagan, Carter and Ford? ALL of them, without exception, have supplied weapons to Israel.
None of them are actively president.
Nor were any of them so during such a globally recognised instance of genocide. Many people have been disliking the US for supporting Israel for so long, but its gone from apartheid South Africa to Nazi Germany in the past few months, so the reaction and need for adequate response from the US is far higher than under previous presidents.
I was upset at our military funding under Obama and Trump also. I Couldn't do anything about Bush, Clinton and half of Obama since they don't let children vote even though I had to be an adult for 2 years under Obama's reign with no representation. 80% of America's military budget could be cut if not more. I have been against Israel funding since 2008 despite being 16. I have been against the military industrial complex since then too.
Previous presidents hold no power right now. I have no choice but to vote democratic if I don't want people to lose rights in my state. I am lucky I can vote 3rd party against Biden and not worry that Trump will win my state. So I can at least protest vote a little bit.
To be sure, none of us really know what it's like to be in the office of president, but I would be surprised if a current sitting president had any power over the military industrial complex either. The office isn't as powerful as many people like to think.
If its so ineffective, why are people scared of Trump getting it?
The position wields a lot of power, its just being used to enable the harmful status quo currently.
Like Biden could literally solve so much of the problems from the war on drugs, but he doesnt act. Its not a powerless position, its a weak president.
People are scared of Trump not leaving. Biden issued a bunch of orders that undid a bunch of Trump's orders pretty much as soon as he got into office. Anything a president orders can be unordered by the next president. Presidential orders are not a silver bullet, they're limited and can be undone as easily as they're done. Considering there is a lot of budget money spent on military programs that congress doesn't even know about, it's not as easy to shut down as you people seem to think.
Trump has proven 0 respect for democracy or process, and went so far as to post his manifesto on his campaign website under the title “Project 2025”.
I don't know maybe the support of an active ongoing mass cleansing operation might have something to do with it?
It's so bad you have child-fucker conservatives saying "too far" and these are the people who get off to children suffering.