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We. Are. Not. Comrades.
No comrade of mine supports genocide.
No comrade of mine supports trans persecution.
No comrade of mine supports racial oppression.
No comrade of mine supports the police.
No comrade of mine supports oil companies and frackers.
No comrade of mine supports fascists.
No comrade of mine supports racists.
No comrade of mine supports bigots.
No comrade of mine is fine with the deaths of millions.
No comrade of mine supports the border wall.
No comrade of mine supports increased persecution of immigrants.
No comrade of mine supports kids in cages.
No comrade of mine supports brinkmanship and warmongering.
No comrade of mine supports colonialism.
No comrade of mine supports the us empire furthering its grasp.
No comrade of mine supports the continued evolution of fascist militias.
You do.
You are not my comrade.
You do not. Stop saying you agree with me or understand me when you do not. The only difference between the two is that trump is an oaf and so you gave a shit when these things happened under him.
You are not my friend and this "high road" act you're trying to pull isn't fooling everyone.
If we met in person, then you would get hurt, because you are supporting a fascist, genocides, oppression and so on and so forth. Take this to heart and consider why a supposed "comrade" might think this of you.
You are correct. It does not matter wether or not we vote for Biden, because it does not matter wether or not he wins, because he is the same as trump.
Edit: Made it more palatable to libs.
Buddy, I'm just tired of arguing over something we both agree doesn't even fucking matter. I apologize for grandstanding, I let myself get emotional about justifications that only really apply to me and my state of mind.
I am trying to take the high road in the sense I want to be less angry about it. I want to be less angry and less emotional about something we both agree doesn't matter.
Like, saying I support all that shit for what? You know I fucking dont. I wouldn't be here if I did. Your just angry and being insulting and I just don't want to fight about it anymore. Weather you like it or not, we are still comrades and trying to act like the issue of voting, which we both know doesn't do anything ultimately anyways changes that is why I want to stop arguing.
We are too angry, too emotional, about fucking nothing. And I'm sorry I pushed it this far. I knew how it'd be seen and I wanted to argue my case anyways. I didn't come into it with the ability to be convinced and neither did you. It was pointless to start and has done nothing but make my night one of insomnia. So I'm sorry. Hate me if you want. I'm just trying to genuinely tell you I'm sorry for letting it get here.
You obviously support it, since you are completely fine with it. If you did not support it, then you would not vote for the guy who is doing it, nor would you argue that it was acceptable. Saying you "feel their pain" or "understands my anger" does not matter when you only use those words to diminish what is being said to you. Your empathy does not matter when your actions support those same fascists you claim to want to avoid.
Wether you understand it or not, we aren't. I am not comrades with fascist genociders.
It matters that you are fine with fascism and genocide. That matters a whole lot. it matters that you do not care for the suffering of others.
What is up with you calling me a fascist genocider? Is that really the line for you? If you could kill me right now would you? Am I deserving of that to you? Another guy in the thread thinks so. Tell me you want a fellow communist dead because of a disagreement on voting.
Y'all forget that this text box is a whole ass human being on the other end trying to genuinely connect and talk with you. I didn't come into this conversation to be convinced and that was poor conditions for this conversation, and your going to throw around your big enemy words to what, guilt me? Make me feel bad? Just wanna hurt me? What do you want from me?
If you said what you were saying, and behaved as you've been behaving in this thread, but in real life in my company and the company of my comrades... if you talked over people as you've done, refused to listen, repeated the same argument, tried to change the discussion and attempted grandstanding and the smugness you've tried here, while saying you will vote for a fascist that is aiding in a genocide, and you kept not listening to people patiently trying to discuss these things with yiu, people giving you plenty of chances to shut up and reflect, then yes I think it would end up with you getting beaten up.
I do not forget that you are a person on the other side. I am aware that I am saying this to an individual. Do not belittle me so. likewise do not talk down to me as if this is some matter of "heated emotions" or something. You are not the first fashy "we see you, we hear you" lib I've met. If you truly respected me as a comrade as you claim, then you would not consign my words to being uttered unknowingly in anger.
I want you to not be a fascist. People have tried so many different ways to give you opportunities for self-crit, and you have grasped none of them. Perhaps this could have been an eye opener.
Edit: Made it more palatable to libs
Completely unrelated but thank you for putting into words what pisses me off so much about my dumbass lib-Trot housemate
You're welcome to appropriate the text for the next time you have a heated discussion
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