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if you call everyone dude and a transfem person gets mad about it, don't get defensive. just say like "sorry, i won't do it again" and don't argue "actually it's gender neutral" or "i call everyone dude". even if you do, i guarantee she's heard that argument from someone who very much does not call people they see as women dude. i certainly have
same goes double for the word guy.
oh shit oh fuck i call any plural group of people "guys" when im working and addressing multiple customers
when it's a plural group of people i don't think it's as big a deal, but it would be good to find an alternative
Why not "comrade"?
local rednecks would murder me and local libs would probably think im calling them putin shills
kind of lose lose
After living in the South I stole "y'all" and I'm not giving it back. No more "dudes", "guys", or even "folks".
Y'all is good culture π
just start calling people comrades at work. people would probably find it funny
Got to play up a thick Russian accent when you say it too
Funny enough a plural group of people being addressed as βguysβ or βdudesβ is the original source of this discourse, because early feminists were annoyed by being implicitly excluded in the language of people at work and school
doing it to a group is implicitly excluding women, but doing it to a specific women is explicitly misgendering. personally i wish neither would happen, but when it's the former it's something that happens to cis women too, and while it sucks it's not the worst thing in the world, whereas the latter feels really bad (to me, i understand if others feel differently)
"Folks" everytime?
We love it folks, we love it
Fuck, now you made me hate it.
From what I recall, referring to a group of people as βyou guysβ is a regional thing. I remember in that NY times dialect test that it was one of the questions that nailed me. That said, if Iβm referring to group solely of women, it does seem odd, so I usually use party people or peeps in this situation. Using folks or yβall would get weird looks here.
makes sense. i think i say it because i'm originally from the more northern part of the mid atlantic and picked it up younger