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Do you not realize you are fat shaming by always using a fat guy as the bad character in your memes? I love the line on the belly to make extra sure everyone knows he’s fat. Using glasses as an insult all the time on those characters is also ableism.
I mean, I think he's the only "meme" character I've ever drawn, can you give me any other examples? The reason he's fat is because he's terminally online and never moves, and he wears glasses because he stares at a computer all day. Maybe you've gotten me confused with someone else?
https://lemmygrad.ml/post/744356
i feel its not really about whether his behavior indicates that maybe he looks like that but rather the implication that u think its funny, like ur joke is "the gays, am i right" but with fat/visually impaired people just kinda tasteless.
They're both wisconscom, so the point kind of falls apart.
i was just pointing out that u have made the same "joke" more than once since u stated so confidently that u hadn't. it had nothing to do with my point that ur "joke" is shit and tasteless. The problem isnt that u only direct ur "joke" to this asshole rather that u think what u did is a joke and is appropriate.
It's not a joke, it's my interpretation of an annoying, terminally online kid. If Wisconscom looks like a gigachad and can bench press five tons in real life, great. Until we find proof that he can, I'll draw him however I please.
I think this might be the issue? A similar stereotype of terminally online people is constantly used as an ableist strawman by reactionaries. A layman looking at this meme wouldn’t be able to differentiate how it’s humor would be any different from an ancient 2012 meme making fun of furries.
I don’t think you intended this, especially because it’s become it’s own stereotype people reproduce unconsciously, but the criticism is valid as a general criticism of meme culture in general.
I do feel like the top level comment wasn’t even thinking from this perspective and may just be trying to stir up shit but obviously I can’t prove that. I apologize if that is wrong.
You do have a point, although I haven't been around the internet that long so I haven't seen any of those. However, what else would a terminally online guy be portrayed? This isn't intended as a "gotcha", I'm just curious what alternatives there are.
There is a computer in the room, the room looks relatively normal, but in front of it there is a blue glow in the shape of a person on one side, but on the other side not facing the screen there is nothing, indicating that his only existence is online, but contributions in the real world are null.
That’s extremely sad and very philosophical. Doesn’t feel like that would really be humorous.
But that would be a very good depiction and a really good drawing idea!
You're right, it's probably a difficulty in seeing how the view could be harmful because thats not how the artist intended the meaning to be carried out. It might be seen as problematic by some, but it seems to be an extremely thin tightrope with no clear answer.
Artistic disagreements are always a hot button.
u posted a meme to a meme community if it wasnt a joke then what was it are u lost or something. or are u trying to back peddle cuz u got called out on a shitty thing u did. are u seriously saying u just randomly decided to draw someone we all hate as a negative stereotype just by chance and not because u were trying to make fun of them because u think less of people who look like that, like come on man atleast own up to what u are doing. and again it has nothing to do with the particular asshole u are trying to depict and everything to do with what u think that depiction means.
Here's your Wisconscom.
Meh, needs more thermonuclear
i feel like u are deliberately ignoring what im saying so i dont see much of a point in saying anything else