▲ 1426 ▼ More Gen Z Americans identify as LGBTQ than as Republican (www.thepinknews.com) submitted 2 years ago by _number8_@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 502 comments fedilink hide all child comments let's gooo
[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 98 points 2 years ago (3 children) Because people are already jumping to conclusions without reading the article. Here is the core of the survey data. https://www.axios.com/2024/01/23/gen-z-less-religious-more-liberal-lgbtq Identifying as Republican went from 32% in the Boomer Generation to 21% in Gen Z. Identifying as LGBTQ+ went from 4% with Boomers to 28% with Gen Z. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 70 points 2 years ago* (2 children) With the exception of millennials, who were born between 1981 and 1996, Gen Z adults are notably less likely than those in other generations to identify as conservative. Or in simpler terms, both Millennials and Gen Z are equally less likely than those in other generations to identify as conservative. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zurohki@aussie.zone 66 points 2 years ago (1 child) It turns out that people don't become more conservative as they age, they become more conservative as they gain wealth. Millennials and Gen Z aren't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (3 children) Dude it's plainly obvious, at least in my lived experience trying to reach 40. The Republicans I know who "became" republican all either Moved up in class (perceived or real) Became religious Legitimately has a mental illness I am not saying this as a dig, and I am not saying all Republicans etc etc just the people who weren't and then CHANGED THEIR MIND. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Saltblue@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (2 children) religious Mental illness You repeated the same thing twice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stoly@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Glad I wasn't the only one to notice this haha permalink fedilink source parent [+] Machinist3359@kbin.social -8 points 2 years ago Settle down Bill Maher permalink fedilink source parent [–] bedrooms@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I'm starting to move up my career ladder somehow, and I feel this. It's very easy to be selfish and vote for less tax, taking advantage of the young and poor etc. Well, I mean, people other than me grab easy money, around my circle. (And when they justify themselves, I feel they show anger in order to warn me from questioning the morality further. What's making me insist to be on the progressive (?) or socialist side (which I believe is the right thing to do) is maybe I've had enough anger towards the ruling class while I was younger. Or I read enough reddit / fediverse posts from the working class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago What’s more important than the absolute number of your taxes is what they’re being spent on. I personally like having a nice community to live in, my shit not being stolen, my family not getting mugged, etc. And that means investing in communities so they can be better, so then the people living there will get better jobs, and we all grow our economy and have nice places to live. If one party is promising slightly lower taxes, but they want to spend those on militarizing the police and book banning committees, you’re not really getting much in return for your tax investment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stoly@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago My experience mirrors yours. Those who are after material wealth in any context tend to be conservative and define themselves by their perceived successes more than by their personalities. Such people will fill that void with religion. permalink fedilink source parent [+] J12@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sprokes@jlai.lu 13 points 2 years ago The issue is that if Republicans win they will make sure they will win every election from now on. They already started doing it (vote suppression for the black and Latinos for example). permalink fedilink source parent [–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago I'm already here. Make sure you vote. 😁 permalink fedilink source parent [–] stoly@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Gen X will never be the majority, Millenials are greater in number. And the older ones will be 50 by the time the boomers disappear from power. permalink fedilink source parent [–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago Because people are already jumping to conclusions without reading the article. Here is the core of the survey data. Identifying as Republican went from 32% in the Boomer Generation to 21% in Gen Z. Identifying as LGBTQ+ went from 4% with Boomers to 28% with Gen Z. The conclusion I would have jumped to is that the percentage of Gen Z who identified as LGBTQ+ would be greater than that who identified as Republican. So it seems I don't actually need to read it. 😜 permalink fedilink source parent [+] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago (5 children) 28% LGBT is what seems dubious. Lot of spicy straights in that pool I suspect. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 15 points 2 years ago I think people are feeling more inclined to label themselves as LGBTQ when they're heteroflexible as well as young people better recognizing things like the asexuality spectrum. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ski11erboi@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago Nah, just more people admitting they're bisexual. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago The B part of LGBTQIA+ is doing some heavy lifting in this stat. And as usual there’s probably a lot of women who are straight but think they’re Bi because “Margot Robbie could probably get it if that was an option” kinda like a lot of guys who think admitting a guy looks good makes them gay permalink fedilink source parent [–] vimdiesel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Yeah that's not right. No other poll shows it being that high, but they found one they "agree" with and used that number lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hexarei@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) What's a spicy straight? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Someone who is straight but tells people they are queer. permalink fedilink source parent [+] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago Can't remember. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 70 points 2 years ago* (2 children) With the exception of millennials, who were born between 1981 and 1996, Gen Z adults are notably less likely than those in other generations to identify as conservative. Or in simpler terms, both Millennials and Gen Z are equally less likely than those in other generations to identify as conservative. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zurohki@aussie.zone 66 points 2 years ago (1 child) It turns out that people don't become more conservative as they age, they become more conservative as they gain wealth. Millennials and Gen Z aren't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (3 children) Dude it's plainly obvious, at least in my lived experience trying to reach 40. The Republicans I know who "became" republican all either Moved up in class (perceived or real) Became religious Legitimately has a mental illness I am not saying this as a dig, and I am not saying all Republicans etc etc just the people who weren't and then CHANGED THEIR MIND. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Saltblue@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (2 children) religious Mental illness You repeated the same thing twice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stoly@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Glad I wasn't the only one to notice this haha permalink fedilink source parent [+] Machinist3359@kbin.social -8 points 2 years ago Settle down Bill Maher permalink fedilink source parent [–] bedrooms@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I'm starting to move up my career ladder somehow, and I feel this. It's very easy to be selfish and vote for less tax, taking advantage of the young and poor etc. Well, I mean, people other than me grab easy money, around my circle. (And when they justify themselves, I feel they show anger in order to warn me from questioning the morality further. What's making me insist to be on the progressive (?) or socialist side (which I believe is the right thing to do) is maybe I've had enough anger towards the ruling class while I was younger. Or I read enough reddit / fediverse posts from the working class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago What’s more important than the absolute number of your taxes is what they’re being spent on. I personally like having a nice community to live in, my shit not being stolen, my family not getting mugged, etc. And that means investing in communities so they can be better, so then the people living there will get better jobs, and we all grow our economy and have nice places to live. If one party is promising slightly lower taxes, but they want to spend those on militarizing the police and book banning committees, you’re not really getting much in return for your tax investment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stoly@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago My experience mirrors yours. Those who are after material wealth in any context tend to be conservative and define themselves by their perceived successes more than by their personalities. Such people will fill that void with religion. permalink fedilink source parent [+] J12@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sprokes@jlai.lu 13 points 2 years ago The issue is that if Republicans win they will make sure they will win every election from now on. They already started doing it (vote suppression for the black and Latinos for example). permalink fedilink source parent [–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago I'm already here. Make sure you vote. 😁 permalink fedilink source parent [–] stoly@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Gen X will never be the majority, Millenials are greater in number. And the older ones will be 50 by the time the boomers disappear from power. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 66 points 2 years ago (1 child) It turns out that people don't become more conservative as they age, they become more conservative as they gain wealth. Millennials and Gen Z aren't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (3 children) Dude it's plainly obvious, at least in my lived experience trying to reach 40. The Republicans I know who "became" republican all either Moved up in class (perceived or real) Became religious Legitimately has a mental illness I am not saying this as a dig, and I am not saying all Republicans etc etc just the people who weren't and then CHANGED THEIR MIND. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Saltblue@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (2 children) religious Mental illness You repeated the same thing twice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stoly@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Glad I wasn't the only one to notice this haha permalink fedilink source parent [+] Machinist3359@kbin.social -8 points 2 years ago Settle down Bill Maher permalink fedilink source parent [–] bedrooms@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I'm starting to move up my career ladder somehow, and I feel this. It's very easy to be selfish and vote for less tax, taking advantage of the young and poor etc. Well, I mean, people other than me grab easy money, around my circle. (And when they justify themselves, I feel they show anger in order to warn me from questioning the morality further. What's making me insist to be on the progressive (?) or socialist side (which I believe is the right thing to do) is maybe I've had enough anger towards the ruling class while I was younger. Or I read enough reddit / fediverse posts from the working class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago What’s more important than the absolute number of your taxes is what they’re being spent on. I personally like having a nice community to live in, my shit not being stolen, my family not getting mugged, etc. And that means investing in communities so they can be better, so then the people living there will get better jobs, and we all grow our economy and have nice places to live. If one party is promising slightly lower taxes, but they want to spend those on militarizing the police and book banning committees, you’re not really getting much in return for your tax investment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stoly@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago My experience mirrors yours. Those who are after material wealth in any context tend to be conservative and define themselves by their perceived successes more than by their personalities. Such people will fill that void with religion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (3 children) Dude it's plainly obvious, at least in my lived experience trying to reach 40. The Republicans I know who "became" republican all either Moved up in class (perceived or real) Became religious Legitimately has a mental illness I am not saying this as a dig, and I am not saying all Republicans etc etc just the people who weren't and then CHANGED THEIR MIND. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Saltblue@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (2 children) religious Mental illness You repeated the same thing twice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stoly@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Glad I wasn't the only one to notice this haha permalink fedilink source parent [+] Machinist3359@kbin.social -8 points 2 years ago Settle down Bill Maher permalink fedilink source parent [–] bedrooms@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I'm starting to move up my career ladder somehow, and I feel this. It's very easy to be selfish and vote for less tax, taking advantage of the young and poor etc. Well, I mean, people other than me grab easy money, around my circle. (And when they justify themselves, I feel they show anger in order to warn me from questioning the morality further. What's making me insist to be on the progressive (?) or socialist side (which I believe is the right thing to do) is maybe I've had enough anger towards the ruling class while I was younger. Or I read enough reddit / fediverse posts from the working class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago What’s more important than the absolute number of your taxes is what they’re being spent on. I personally like having a nice community to live in, my shit not being stolen, my family not getting mugged, etc. And that means investing in communities so they can be better, so then the people living there will get better jobs, and we all grow our economy and have nice places to live. If one party is promising slightly lower taxes, but they want to spend those on militarizing the police and book banning committees, you’re not really getting much in return for your tax investment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stoly@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago My experience mirrors yours. Those who are after material wealth in any context tend to be conservative and define themselves by their perceived successes more than by their personalities. Such people will fill that void with religion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saltblue@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (2 children) religious Mental illness You repeated the same thing twice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stoly@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Glad I wasn't the only one to notice this haha permalink fedilink source parent [+] Machinist3359@kbin.social -8 points 2 years ago Settle down Bill Maher permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stoly@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Glad I wasn't the only one to notice this haha permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Machinist3359@kbin.social -8 points 2 years ago Settle down Bill Maher permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bedrooms@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I'm starting to move up my career ladder somehow, and I feel this. It's very easy to be selfish and vote for less tax, taking advantage of the young and poor etc. Well, I mean, people other than me grab easy money, around my circle. (And when they justify themselves, I feel they show anger in order to warn me from questioning the morality further. What's making me insist to be on the progressive (?) or socialist side (which I believe is the right thing to do) is maybe I've had enough anger towards the ruling class while I was younger. Or I read enough reddit / fediverse posts from the working class. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago What’s more important than the absolute number of your taxes is what they’re being spent on. I personally like having a nice community to live in, my shit not being stolen, my family not getting mugged, etc. And that means investing in communities so they can be better, so then the people living there will get better jobs, and we all grow our economy and have nice places to live. If one party is promising slightly lower taxes, but they want to spend those on militarizing the police and book banning committees, you’re not really getting much in return for your tax investment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago What’s more important than the absolute number of your taxes is what they’re being spent on. I personally like having a nice community to live in, my shit not being stolen, my family not getting mugged, etc. And that means investing in communities so they can be better, so then the people living there will get better jobs, and we all grow our economy and have nice places to live. If one party is promising slightly lower taxes, but they want to spend those on militarizing the police and book banning committees, you’re not really getting much in return for your tax investment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stoly@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago My experience mirrors yours. Those who are after material wealth in any context tend to be conservative and define themselves by their perceived successes more than by their personalities. Such people will fill that void with religion. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] J12@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sprokes@jlai.lu 13 points 2 years ago The issue is that if Republicans win they will make sure they will win every election from now on. They already started doing it (vote suppression for the black and Latinos for example). permalink fedilink source parent [–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago I'm already here. Make sure you vote. 😁 permalink fedilink source parent [–] stoly@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Gen X will never be the majority, Millenials are greater in number. And the older ones will be 50 by the time the boomers disappear from power. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sprokes@jlai.lu 13 points 2 years ago The issue is that if Republicans win they will make sure they will win every election from now on. They already started doing it (vote suppression for the black and Latinos for example). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago I'm already here. Make sure you vote. 😁 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stoly@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Gen X will never be the majority, Millenials are greater in number. And the older ones will be 50 by the time the boomers disappear from power. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago Because people are already jumping to conclusions without reading the article. Here is the core of the survey data. Identifying as Republican went from 32% in the Boomer Generation to 21% in Gen Z. Identifying as LGBTQ+ went from 4% with Boomers to 28% with Gen Z. The conclusion I would have jumped to is that the percentage of Gen Z who identified as LGBTQ+ would be greater than that who identified as Republican. So it seems I don't actually need to read it. 😜 permalink fedilink source parent
[+] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago (5 children) 28% LGBT is what seems dubious. Lot of spicy straights in that pool I suspect. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 15 points 2 years ago I think people are feeling more inclined to label themselves as LGBTQ when they're heteroflexible as well as young people better recognizing things like the asexuality spectrum. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ski11erboi@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago Nah, just more people admitting they're bisexual. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago The B part of LGBTQIA+ is doing some heavy lifting in this stat. And as usual there’s probably a lot of women who are straight but think they’re Bi because “Margot Robbie could probably get it if that was an option” kinda like a lot of guys who think admitting a guy looks good makes them gay permalink fedilink source parent [–] vimdiesel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Yeah that's not right. No other poll shows it being that high, but they found one they "agree" with and used that number lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hexarei@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) What's a spicy straight? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Someone who is straight but tells people they are queer. permalink fedilink source parent [+] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago Can't remember. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 15 points 2 years ago I think people are feeling more inclined to label themselves as LGBTQ when they're heteroflexible as well as young people better recognizing things like the asexuality spectrum. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ski11erboi@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago Nah, just more people admitting they're bisexual. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago The B part of LGBTQIA+ is doing some heavy lifting in this stat. And as usual there’s probably a lot of women who are straight but think they’re Bi because “Margot Robbie could probably get it if that was an option” kinda like a lot of guys who think admitting a guy looks good makes them gay permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vimdiesel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Yeah that's not right. No other poll shows it being that high, but they found one they "agree" with and used that number lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hexarei@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) What's a spicy straight? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Someone who is straight but tells people they are queer. permalink fedilink source parent [+] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago Can't remember. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Someone who is straight but tells people they are queer. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago Can't remember. permalink fedilink source parent