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and how many PoC, who, while doing nothing wrong, got charged with “resisting arrest” got sentenced to 5-10 years while not committing treason...
Get that race-baited bullshit out of here. There were a shockingly large number of non white folks involved in this attack on the capital as well as Trump supporters in general. Always blindly falling back to the simple-minded bullshit of race is one of the reasons why so many people support that traitor.
A look at demographics of the Jan. 6 insurrectionists
Who Stormed the US Capitol? New Report Digs Into Demographics of Those Arrested
Facts, not your feelings, are what matter here-- and discussions about racism are only uncomfortable for racists
Not according to, ya know, the facts...
White, employed and mainstream: What we know about the Jan. 6 rioters one year later
We Know Exactly Who the Capitol Rioters Were
Keep on focusing on meaningless things such as race and missing the forest for the trees. Then wonder why with nearly every election, Democrats are just barely scraping a win even though their opponents are goddamn fascists. You shouldn't ever lose to a fascist in America, and just barely squeezing out a win is nothing to be proud of.
There are very real voters who are drawn to Trump and thinking that all of them are old, white people is ignorant and dangerous.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-political-scene/the-deep-origins-of-latino-support-for-trump
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/racism-isnt-everyones-priority/617108/
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/06/briefing/asian-americans-conservative-republican.html
And go Google Image Search Proud Boys and tell me those people are old. Because that is another endlessly overuse cliche that all these right wing lunatics are senior citizens and supposedly once they die off, we won't have much to worry about. That is incredibly wrong.
wow, that's some real white privilege you got there to think race is meaningless
oh, and you can stow the rest of your whining, as any rational person can see it as the straw man deflection it really is.
Oh look a shiny ball! Go focus on the shiny ball all while the ruling class fuck everyone over. Simpletons are the ruling class' wet dream.
is repeating the same tired talking point while hurling insults supposed to make you sound clever?
It is supposed to highlight how utterly clueless some people are. Tools of the bourgeois. Tools, indeed.
for someone who fails to grasp the intersection of race and class dynamics to call others "simpletons" and "tools" only makes a joke of themselves. thanks for the laugh.
Please try to phrase your arguments in a less aggressive and intentionally inflammatory way. You weren't insulting anyone directly but it was on the line, and just encourages a culture or toxicity and ragebaiting.
Do you really think he would have only gotten three years if he was black? Because data shows otherwise. Systemic racism is real and it is a problem. Especially when it comes to putting people in prison, the slavery system which is still legal in this country.
Bringing up racial inequity isn't "race -baiting." What you are doing is attempting to shut down any discussion of a major systemic problem.
That shit doesn't work anymore. You're like 10+ years late with that attempt. If even seeing other people talk about racism upsets you so much, that's on you.
Yeah nice try into race-baiting people simply because you are such a simpleton who can't see we have a major class war brewing, but you are blindly hung up on pointless race wars. Good job! You're the perfect tool for the the 1%'ers who are trying to keep the people down by dividing us over meaningless things.
it's been my experience that the only people uncomfortable discussing racism are racists.
It is my experience that people who love to be race baited are people too mentally deficient to process anything more complicated than black or white, up or down, or in or out.
The ruling class love those people because they help divide regular folks and distract them from the class war happening.
considering your takes on race, class, and politics, i doubt many people would take your "experience" very seriously. the community here certainly doesn't seem to.
I believe they are referring to the Georgia Floyd protests, though I'm not aware of any significant sentences related to that.
PoC don't need to be at a protest to be wrongly charged-- or worse...
BTW:
SC George Floyd protester’s 4-year prison sentence raises free speech fears
During George Floyd Protests, 2 Lawyers’ Futures Went Up in Flames
George Floyd: US protesters charged as 'gang' face life sentence
This is true, I was only talking about jail sentences I didn't see any that equaled more than a few days. I certainly could be wrong and welcome any insight into cases that show otherwise.
I found those 3 links with 10 seconds of googling. Here in NYC, I know of many people I know personally who were either held or pursued by the DAs of Manhattan and Kings County (Brooklyn) on charges related to the protests all the way until spring of 2021 when COVID forced them to drop the charges as the courts become overloaded with actual crimes.
if you actually look, you’ll find no shortage of reporting on the matter.
Please post them in the comments, it adds to the discussion and aids your point.
Or, you know, you could take 30 seconds to inform yourself... But, then again, that would mean that you can't feign ignorance about the topic anymore.
Did you know Google doesn't give the same results to each person and actually hides results? This is why it is important to reference websites in socal media when trying to make a point. Stop thinking everyone has access to whatever you see.
Yes, I know how Google works. Which also means that I know how to use the search to get the results I need.
Great, now try that search in Canada. Try that search in Poland.
aren't you the one who wants the information? why are you demanding others find it for you?
Sure, if I knew what they were searching for and where. You are also making huge assumptions on the search capabilities of the average person. It's better to link to its when making an argument so all parties have access to the information.
you said so yourself in your first comment in this thread:
also
if you're curious as to what search engine to use, the one mentioned several times in this comment thread (including by you):
also
show me where i made these alleged assumptions. a quote or a link to the comment would do.
please do
they don't need help making their point.