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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again with the goalposts. Facts are facts. Admit you were wrong about Obama having a supermajority. Unless you are just being a provocateur, you don't help your case when you clearly miss the truth and deflect from admitting it.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Okay. I checked the timeline. It's shit.

Robert Byrd was relased from hospital in 2009-06-30 - https://rollcall.com/2009/06/30/byrd-released-from-hospital-2/
Al Franken's was sworn in 2009-07-07 - https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna31778598
Robert Byrd was again only hospitalized in 2009-09-22 - https://www.politico.com/story/2009/09/byrd-admitted-to-hospital-after-fall-027429

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol. Byrd was 91 and "out of commission". He wasn't present and your timeline means nothing. I'll say it again for the tenth time, Obama did not have a supermajority to override a Republican filibuster.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not my timeline. It's me proving your timeline in https://www.huffpost.com/entry/debunking-the-myth-obamas_b_1929869 is just factually wrong.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lololol. First, Franken’s timeline is as stated. Byrd was out. You somehow think that his being out of the hospital means he was present and voting? Are you an idiot?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you an idiot?

Is not an argument.

I'm out. I was open to discussion until personal attacks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You were never open to a discussion because you refused to admit you were wrong about the supermajority. And you’ve spent a lot of time deflecting from that fact.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just gonna call you out for a sec.

He said Ginsburg and Fenstein, because you said Ginsburg and Feinstein. While the answer to this question could easily be a "yes", this wasn't part of the original message. You're expecting him to bring up things you yourself didn't.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And if your party member is incapable of voting then he should have resigned a long fucking time ago.

It was.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're just arguing in bad faith. We can easily just say yes but if you don't explicitly bring it up then you're just trying to find a way to debase the argument. You shouldn't expect people to answer for people you only bring up after your first argument didn't give you the results you wanted.