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Mr Biden’s speech is his first major campaign event of the 2024 election season

President Joe Biden marked the third anniversary of the January 6 attack on the Capitol by warning that the issue of American democracy will be “what the 2024 election is all about,” as he runs against former president Donald Trump once more.

Mr Biden, who spoke near the Valley Forge historical site where George Washington and the Continental Army were encamped during the winter of 1777 and 1778, told attendees that they were there “to answer the most important of questions: Is democracy still America’s sacred cause?”

“This isn’t rhetorical, academic, or hypothetical. Whether democracy is still America’s sacred cause is the most urgent question of our time,” he said.

Mr Biden said his speech, his first major event of the 2024 election season, was “deadly serious,” and about a topic that needed to be raised at the outset of his campaign.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (4 children)

What frightens me: who is going to be the next Trump? Let's face it, there will likely be another Republican president at some point. Our election system almost guarantees it. Will they do the decent thing and try to work towards the betterment of the country, or will they continue their predecessors' path towards dictatorship? The other front-runners don't inspire much confidence in the former (exception: maybe Christie, but there's virtually no way he'll win).

Nearly every Republican that voted to impeach Trump lost their primary vote, so I only see them going further right, and a lot of people seem to be okay with this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

If it's someone like Mike Johnson then people are going to become nostalgic for Trump lmao

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There are no other front runners. They are all polling double digits behind Trump.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

True. He will win the primary. I'm saying that everyone, but Steve Christie, is more than happy to continue down the path Trump started. This is a trend I doubt will change after Trump is gone.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

short for Stevetopher

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

We’re living in a time when creating extremists is too easy. People used to have to stand in little rooms full of disgruntled people and yell into a microphone. They had to organize and create newspapers and pamphlets. They had to have money to spread their message. They had to lose money to spread their message in hopes of taking power. It took years to rile up enough people to create problems.

Now, any dangerous person has the ability to reach an audience with ease.

It has gotten so bad that even people who aren’t even remotely connected to the internet are extremists. Pawpaw with his flip phone stands at the gas station being radicalized by his old work buddy.

I actually feel like I have to just have faith that everything will work out and our system can save itself.

I hope we don’t end up having to rebuild it all one day with some big nasty lesson we learn and then forget again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Republican politicians only care about winning. If Trump fails yet again, they will change their strategy. The right wing base are mostly subservient people so they'll fall in line.

Fascist movements oftentimes fizzle out. There's generally a cult of personality involved with these movements, and when the leader dies it tends to fade away. Trump isn't young nor is he healthy, it's very unlikely he'll live to 2028. Same goes for a lot of his supporters in the boomer generation.

Sure there is a good number of fashy types in the younger generations but not enough to win an election.

Most important thing is that young people go out and vote in this election.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Please stop conflating Boomers with Trump. I'm def a Boomer and I hate the guy. Also check out the faces in the 1/6 crowd; plenty of younger types there...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's cool, but the data says 53% of boomers voted Trump last election. The majority of voters of younger generations voted Biden.

If it makes you feel better, 66% of the silent generation voted for Trump. Of course the logic that they are dying off applies to them even more so than with boomers.

And yes, this is all about the margins, but that's just how elections go.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

53% is not insignificant, but it's not in "let's generalize the generation" territory. (Not saying that you intended to do that, but that may be the appearance.)

Note this terrifying poll recently that shows Trump beating Biden 37% to 33% in under-35s: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/01/trump-biden-latino-voters-poll

It's one poll and likely overstating Trump support in the general, but it's absolutely shocking to me for Trump to be leading any poll any time in that age group. My assumptions would have been Biden up 20+ points for that demographic. But propaganda works, and people's capacity to forget in 2024 seems rivaled only by their capacity to not pay attention in the first place. We need to seriously consider that reliable demographic assumptions are breaking down in the worst ways possible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Just for a potential acquiesce, most young people conflate conservative/boomers to the mindset, not the age range. It doesn't matter if genx is conservative, they're boomers. It's an unfortunate conflation but it's the reality given that such a high percentage of people hold those politics.

It is funny, since the boomers were also the hippie flower generation. Which is why it's sad that so many are also simping for fascism.