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Frustrated by “rogue buses” from Texas dropping off migrants by the thousands, the mayors of New York, Chicago and Denver are trying to slow the surge by requiring the bus operators to coordinate arrivals under the threat of impound, fines and even jail time.

Last week, 14 busloads of migrants from Texas made their way to New York City – the highest total recorded since spring 2022, Mayor Eric Adams said, citing the city’s Asylum Seeker Arrival Center.

At the direction of Texas’ Republican Gov. Greg Abbott, the Lone Star state has bused over 90,000 migrants to “sanctuary cities” run by Democrats like Washington, DC, New York City, Chicago, Philadelphia, Denver and Los Angeles since April 2022, according to numbers released by the governor’s office Friday.

In justifying the busing of migrants who cross the southern border, Abbott in a statement last year said “it was just Texas and Arizona that bore the brunt of all the chaos and problems that come with it.”

“Now, the rest of America can understand exactly what is going on,” he said.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Blue cities and states should embrace the migrants. Form an economic pact, where they help fund basic communal housing for the new arrivals. They can even help build future units. Many of them are from areas so poor it would seem like luxury. Give them work for the state and city as much as possible. You would be hard pressed to find more dedicated harder workers than many of these immigrants. It would help reduce budgets and worker shortages. And in a generation or two your population will grow massively along with your local economy. Take the lemons and make lemonade. I'd gladly take a lot of them over the fashy psychotic neighbors I already have.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It's not that the blue cities don't want the people, they just want warning and the ability to prepare for them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For example that one stunt where a private plane was chartered to drop people off in Martha’s Vineyard with the promise of jobs. I understand it’s a well off liberal island so the idiot from Florida thought the stunt would land, but it’s an island. They dropped the people on an island with no notice, as beach season ended so no jobs, no easy resources, half the restaurants closed down. That guy should have gone to jail for using fellow human beings like that. We had plenty of room , plenty of resources on the mainland, and they could have saved money by using a bus

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Let's not forget that DeathSantis sent these immigrants from Texas there. They never touched Florida soil.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I am not a Texas sympathizer so I can forgive anyone for misreading me here.

But Texas isn't getting warning either. This is a US problem, and rather than Abbott doing this migrant distribution to "prove a point" vengefully, we should interrupt this operation and look at it from the federal level. This is a work load we all need to share in.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh I despise Texas but border states shouldn’t bear all the responsibility of immigration anymore than they should be bussing these essentially helpless people to a different state to just keep them from being Texas’ problem. Two wrongs don’t make a right. I don’t know what the solution is but making it somebody else’s problem is illegal and just morally wrong, not that that has ever stopped the GOP.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

border states shouldn’t bear all the responsibility of immigration

They don’t. There’s been huge federal involvement all along. Clearly Texas thinks there should be more, but looking at their history and passive-aggressive human trafficking they’re using to make their point, I tend to assume it’s just Texas being overly dramatic again, looking for more handouts again. We’ll be happy to help figure something out if you can find a grown up

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Also, most "illegal immigrants" arrive in the US legally on tourist visas, around half the yearly total enters via commercial airlines.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I just want to clarify my stance. Texas cannot be trusted with the responsibility of allowing basic human dignity and human rights for the most vulnerable people, so we need to figure out how to intervene and preempt their horrible policies and operations.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting that a federal border crossing is unprepared to handle people crossing the border?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If people are being captured or tricked by the governor of Texas to get on a random bus, I think it follows that the US could do more to help protect these people before that occurs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I agree 100%. Texas COULD be doing more to help themselves, but that's not the Republican Way. They're holding the gun in the Eric Andre meme and New York is Hannibal Buress.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I just want to clarify my stance. Texas cannot be trusted with the responsibility of allowing basic human dignity and human rights for the most vulnerable people, so we need to figure out how to intervene and preempt their horrible policies and operations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

We're complaining about this happening. We've been given our warning. We need to start preparing now. And make conservatives regret it. Go ahead. Make us stronger

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They've known about the problem. They should be asking for these future citizens and building infrastructure to create welcoming and productive communities for them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Right. So should Texas.

But fine, if Texas wants to hot potato these people to other cities and states, let's give these other places portions of the federal money earmarked for Texas border control so they can build the infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We invest in people born here and spend a lot of resources getting them to contributing age. These are like busses full of free investments mostly already at adult age. Accept them. Invest in them. Embrace them as you said. It's what this country is made to do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Yes, this would be the best way to make it that far. Spectacularly on conservatives. Gladly and openly invite them in. Make them feel that they belong. And grow the empathetic and blue communities that conservatives hate so much.