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What is Neurodivergence?

It's ADHD, Autism, OCD, schizophrenia, anxiety, depression, bi-polar, aspd, etc etc etc etc

“neurologically atypical patterns of thought or behavior”

So, it’s very broad, if you feel like it describes you then it does as far as we're concerned


Rules

1.) ableist language=post or comment will probably get removed (enforced case by case, some comments will be removed and restored due to complex situations). repeated use of ableist language=banned from comm and possibly site depending on severity. properly tagged posts with CW can use them for the purposes of discussing them

2.) always assume good faith when dealing with a fellow nd comrade especially due to lack of social awareness being a common symptom of neurodivergence

2.5) right to disengage is rigidly enforced. violations will get you purged from the comm. see rule 3 for explanation on appeals

3.) no talking over nd comrades about things you haven't personally experienced as a neurotypical chapo, you will be purged. If you're ND it is absolutely fine to give your own perspective if it conflicts with another's, but do so with empathy and the intention to learn about each other, not prove who's experience is valid. Appeal process is like appealing in user union but you dm the nd comrade you talked over with your appeal (so make it a good one) and then dm the mods with screenshot proof that you resolved it. fake screenies will get you banned from the site, we will confirm with the comrade you dm'd.

3.5) everyone has their own lived experiences, and to invalidate them is to post cringe. comments will be removed on a case by case basis depending on determined level of awareness and faith

4.) Interest Policing will not be tolerated in any form. Support your comrades in their joy!

Further rules to be added/ rules to be changed based on community input

RULES NOTE: For this community more than most we understand that the clarity and understandability of these rules is very important for allowing folks to feel comfortable, to that end please don't be afraid to be outspoken about amendments and addendums to these rules, as well as any we may have missed

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hey there hexbear nd gang! it's that time of year for the first time ever!

here we are once again approaching the end of the year according to the roman imperial calendar that we all have to use for some reason. it's the winter holiday season in the global north, a time of great symbolic significance to many people.

and so, i want to solicit your thoughts about this community, what it means to you, how you'd like to see it evolve, changes in moderation policy, suggestions for thumbnail and banner images, or anything else related to the comm or neurodiversity in general.

or just come hang out!

i also want to invite applications for new moderators for this comm. what would you like to do as a moderator for c/neurodiversity?

personally i've largely been a placeholder, but i do love this community and i want to see it grow as a shared and safe space for our neurodivergent comrades to talk about ourselves and with each other. i also want to do better and want your input about what that means.

c/nd has a well behaved user base so we don't need extra mod help for enforcement or anything like that. what i'm mainly looking for is fresh perspectives on community engagement and growth.

there is absolutely no requirement to disclose any personal information about yourself, just to make that clear. but if you're interested in moderating this community, please contact @[email protected], myself, and/or the other nd mods with an application.

if deadlines help motivate you, you have 3 days from the time you read this.

if deadlines harm your motivation, don't worry about it. if an application comes in a month or two from now of course we'll still consider it. this isn't a job, i'm just asking for volunteers to help moderate a small internet message board.

Application

What is your Hexbear username?

Do you have any preferred pronouns?

What are your thoughts on capitalism?

What are your thoughts on imperialism?

What are your thoughts on trans rights?

What are your thoughts on racial justice?

What are your thoughts on neurodiversity?

What do think about current and previous protests around the world?

What are your thoughts on Veganism and Animal Liberation?

Do you have any experience with other leftist online communities? What did those experiences teach you?

What is your approach to moderation, and how do you work with teams?

How do you deal with online drama and people who try to start things for the sake of it?

Do you have any ideas for c/neurodiveristy community engagement?

What is your general time availability? (amounts, common browsing times, etc)

Element information

Element is a messaging app that lets you talk to people over the Matrix protocol.

To get started, check out this link, where you can choose to either download Element for your platform or, if on a computer, open it in a browser ("Launch Element Web").

The instructions that follow are for the desktop application and the web application, but the process is similar on all apps:

  • Press "Create Account"
  • We host our own Matrix server, so if you want you can change matrix.org to chapo.chat. This is completely optional; users who sign up with a matrix.org username can still talk to people with chapo.chat username. (Note: It is chapo.chat, not hexbear.net. Also, registrations aren't always open on chapo.chat; if they're not, just create an account on matrix.org)
  • Fill in a username and password
  • Hit register, and you're done!

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Ok. Im actually kind of mad about this, but i dont want to cause problems in whats been a peaceful, positive thread.

But i have to ask, as politely as possible, why is the veganism question part of the mod application for the neurodiversity comm? Would i be rejected for not following the hexbear party line on the subject?

Because while i think veganism is a good thing to practice, ive been constantly put off by the way vegans on this site seem to not give a damn about the fact that a vegan diet can be difficult to literally actually impossible for autistic people. Whether its just difficulty changing habits like me, or whether its extreme cases of people with asd only being able to stomach a short list of foods like my friend. This is a neurosdiversity issue id like to discuss. But i frankly do not feel safe doing so here, not even in the ND comm. To see a question i feel is irrelevant to a person's ability to moderate an ND comm on the application makes me more certain of that. Seems like a way to filter out disent like that.

Also without bringing up meta drama specifics, i know of other ND users who share my discomfort with the veganism discourse on this site, and the behavior of certain vegan users.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

why is the veganism question part of the mod application for the neurodiversity comm? Would i be rejected for not following the hexbear party line on the subject?

hey autismdragon, the shortest and truest answer is that it's a question on the default application that i copied and pasted, and i didn't remove it despite making a couple other minor nd-specific changes. approval of applications isn't solely up to me, although the nd mods are also given broad discretion to appoint mods we vouch for. so i think the real answer regarding approval is it will simply depend on who's reading it and deciding. site mods and at least some of the nd mods will surely want to see some kind of answer to that question consistent with hexbear policy.

my understanding of hexbear policy is that while it's a pro-vegan and animal liberation site, what gets enforced is prohibiting anti-vegan sentiments.

Volunteers, comments, and posts, should not be anti-vegan, although users and volunteers are not required to be vegan.

per the code of conduct.

i feel like there's plenty of room within that for you and others to discuss your own diets and habits. the discussion elsewhere in this thread has so far been one comment from a vegan encouraging another user to go beyond ditching red meat, and then a few follow up comments from other users about oysters. looks pretty well behaved to me and i have not received any reports about any of those comments.

i hope this addresses your concerns. we're trying to curate a safe and comfortable environment for our neurodivergent users, but this community is on hexbear and the hexbear code of conduct applies.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for the response. I appreciate it and understand about the application.

I did leave an angry comment on that one post you mentioned though. Which was mostly me being annoyed about the situation already. I think ill delete it after writing this.

But i do think Venus's reply was out of line for the situation at hand. Sharing new years resolutions among ND users, and someone shares that theyre giving up red meat, a net good for themselves and the world, and Venus chimes in that thats not good enough?

Dietary changes are very difficult for a lot of autistic people in the best of circumstances. I think it was inappapropriate for the context.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

i appreciate your input and will try to be mindful of it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I am also autistic and think veganism is right but I can't transition yet, because I can't stand raw vegetables for shit (and that's the way they are commonly eaten in my countries).

However I have found that stir frying some "safe" veggies like carrots, peppers and onions makes them edible and tasty. Also adding them to sauces or curries and eating them with pasta and rice respectively. Some other vegan foods are very tasty, like lentils or falafels.

You might not be able to eat most of the above, but they are worth a try I guess

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I personally dont have problems with limited pallete, just with habit changing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I understand. I have that too but probably at a smaller extent than you. I guess the only way is to gradually do it, like turning one more day of the week to a vegan day each month or something. But that truly takes work, when we have so many other matters to attend to and that's the hard part for me. Any time I try to do something healthier like exercising, it comes crashing down when I enter into an intense period of my life and I have to rebuild it afterwards

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Yeah, i have a lot of habits i need to change in my life right now. I dont even shower regularly.