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We've known for years that the owner is a lying, creepy, out of touch dipshit and that it's a very flawed car and the company will cut costs to save money on safety items, every time.

Electric vehicles with drive assist are awesome and are the future, but there are alternatives, especially if you have money, which a lot of Tesla customers do. And they're not particularly well built; how many of these do you think will be on the road 20 years from now? And now we've seen how Elaine runs their companies, why the hell would anybody put their trust in their products?

If you've bought a Tesla in the last five or so years, you're a damn goober in my eyes. That's my hot take, prepared for being called poor and other sodium, tear filled comments from fools whose opinions don't matter. You are the hardcore, foaming at the mouth Segway fan from the 2000s, have at me lol.

Update: The teary eyed, sweaty fingered responses to this are predictably hilarious. I've been called a guy that eats 4 pizzas a week in another old thread because of this, a cunt, a tool, a douche, a couple people spent their energy to tell me they don't understand me spending my energy posting this, some people are telling me something about Tesla or Elaine living in my head rent free. All genuinely pathetic responses, so GG lol. Cheers.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm not sure why you think lemmy is full of Musk fans, but I think you'll find the guess to be incorrect. There's not a lot of Tesla drivers on here. I know that because for the most part, the only people that are here, are ones capable of doing a little research. Ones capable of doing a little research, probably won't buy a Tesla. People who do research on stuff definitely research their vehicles.

There's probably a handful of people that got the early generation stuff, but probably not many. Anyways, have fun.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I bought a Tesla in 2018. I did my research. It’s the best car I’ve ever owned. I’ve driven it from Mississippi all the way to Washington state with no issues. It’s so cheap compared to a gas car too. I pay maybe $9.50 for 300 miles, which is way cheaper than 5.50/gallon of gas.

The drive assist is amazing in longer trips. The city “self driving” isn’t great, but it’s great to have lane keeping and distance keeping in terrible traffic.

I can turn on the AC and view my cameras from the app. What’s another car company that can view 4 angles + inside from the native app? It really helps when I have my dog and need to check in on her when dog mode is active.

Don’t get me wrong, I hate Musk, and he would probably dissuade me from getting one today.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sounds to me like you are just a fan of electric drive trains and connectivity. None of these features are particularly unique to Tesla. Except maybe the inside camera part. Yuck, no thanks.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Tesla’s supercharger network is by far the best American EV charging network. I wish it were better for others, but it’s just not the case.

Tesla also has the most efficient cars. Mine gets about 250Wh/mile, while others get 350+. Hopefully others can catch up because Musk does not deserve the business.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I still can't believe there are competing standards for something as boring as chargers. I kinda hoped that when the EU mandated a single car charger it would spread to non-EU countries too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Ford and GM both signed to use the same chargers that Tesla uses, so for the most part Im hoping that will just be standard in the U.S.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Man, you should have seen the early cellphone market. It was a mess of proprietary chargers that didn't even work on different phones in the same brand. We still have that issue today with Apple even though everyone else standardized.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine if there were Honda gas stations that only let you fuel up your Honda.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except industry trend has started shifting to the NACS plug in the last couple months. That means that all the current CCS vehicles are looking like a worse proposition. Problem is that we won't really see Tesla plug vehicles from other manufacturers until 2025

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't believe Tesla deserves any credit for only just now starting to play nice standards wise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They don't. 8 charging locations that follow the actual standard other manufacturers finally agreed on is pathetic. The fact that the charging networks dropped the ball so fucking hard in the US that manufacturers are throwing in the towel and switching to Tesla's plug is where the failure really occurred.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Well thankfully most other manufacturers are switching to NACS charging ports within the next few years so that’ll effectively open up the Tesla charging network for all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Tesla’s supercharger network is by far the best American EV charging network.

I really think they had a headstart here considering they were one of the first major companies to start pushing for that network in the first place. Hopefully other manufacturers will start doing that as well or atleast have one universal port that they all share so they don't have to build their own stations to do so.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Well yea, but they doesn’t take away from them having the best network. I wish others were better now, but that’s not how it works. Headstarts will always be awarded in tech.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I also got my Tesla before Elon went full crazy, and there only recently were a lot of options. Even then, most were waitlisfed for months and months. Tesla manufactures a ridiculously high percentage of the EV market. Most large car companies are still just dipping their toes in EVs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I may have bought one back in 2018 also if I was looking to get a car.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wow... I knew there wouldnt be a lot, but didnt think it would be this bad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Heh yeah I thought it'd be more too. lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wow F me, even a Tesla Investor community too 😯

I wasn't expecting so many Tesla communities to exist here already though, kinda surprising and insightful

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Users in the single digits though

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

If they all banded together, they'd have almost as many people as this thread, assuming individuals in this thread have posted one or two comments on average.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We should encourage diversity of options and opinions tho.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Definitely agree. Personally Tesla isn't an interest of mine anymore, but their fans are more than welcome to establish communities here on Lemmy IMO

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Christ, why don't they combine their powers? This is Lemmy not fucking Reddit. I guess they can talk in RealTesla (note: I say "they" because I don't own a car/Tesla, not because I hate Elon, though he is certainly an insufferable wanker).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Looks like there is at least one Tesla fan judging by the down votes (at the time of this comment that is).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I downvoted the comment because I find that saying that Tesla owners aren't "capable of doing a little research" is not just untrue, but also unnecessarily belittling/insulting.

I personally would never buy a Tesla but I disagree with insulting people's abilities on the mere basis of them choosing to buy a Tesla.

(I downvoted your comment because I disagree with randomly making up reasons for a post/comment having downvotes.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's always a trace number of people downvoting everything that doesn't jive with a strict conservative doctrine, so you have to normalize for that. It's usually at least 1 on here.

Given how annoying this place would be for any genuine conservative to actually hang out in for any length of time, I conclude we're actually being monitored by someone(s).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, I just like getting into dumb arguments on the internet. I didn't downvote him though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

You'll get tired of it eventually, if you're anything like I was. Regardless, we're clearly under attention, the hack last night was evidence enough of that. Given how much groups of people on the internet like playing games, I think it's frankly a little out-of-touch to think there's nobody intentionally observing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know you can see who's downvoting right? It's a lurker account with "Texas" in the username. Make of that what you will.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You know you can see who's downvoting right

We can't see downvoter users in Lemmy 🥺

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Anyone who runs an instance has access to see the names of people who upvoted/downvoted any comments or posts that get fed into that instance. So while you have to be an instance admin to see that data, anyone can become an instance admin if they want to. And I have a feeling it's only a matter of time before someone uses that power to write a bot that can DM you the names of people who upvoted/downvoted any particular piece of content on demand.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It is possible, but I think it only works if you have your own instance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are downvotes on lemmy?