EDIT: we just crossed 30K π₯³
We are now at 28.5K users (see https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list). The top 10 instances also got a decent boost in user count. With the exception of beehaw.org which defederated, the Fediverse is thriving π₯
this post was submitted on 17 Jun 2023
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I like lemmy.world because it seems to be neutral and doesn't have heavy handed moderators. Communities are allowed to bloom and grow. It's scalable.
I respect what Beehaw wants to do, but their goals are not realistic if they want to be a platform of any significant size.
So far I also like the communities I've seen on Lemmy.ml, but there have been a lot of technical/server issues.
He indeed is, on top of truly knowing what he's doing.
My reason for being here is, while checking other instances, I saw a post by lemmy.ml admins saying they were overloaded by the influx of new people.
Since they had 1k people, I thought max 500 could be a good number (lemmy.world was a bit less than 500 when I joined).
I checked small instances and this one gave me really good vibes, more than the others, so here I am and I couldn't be happier about it :)
There were only 500 people on lemmy.world when you started? How long ago if you don't mind me asking?
I joined only 10 days ago, growth has been crazy :D
Holy moly, it really is taking off fast.
Yes! I've been using it very actively every day since I joined, and while it's not perfect, I haven't seen any major hiccups, admins are doing a truly fantastic job.
@Confuzzeled I signed up when the blackout started on the 12th I think lots of us where just trying to find a new home and came to whatever was open lol I was on lemmy.ml realized it was crashing then came to lemmy.world and havenβt looked back
He started lemmy.world on June 1st
Same thing for me. I have my own biases, but I kinda expect to be exposed to things I don't agree sometimes: knowledge is good and trying to understand other viewpoints is useful (even if to know how someone could get something so wrong).
lemmy.world provides me that, I can engage with content I clearly enjoy, and debate (in a civil way) about things I disagree. And if something is really egregious I can block it myself.
Is there a way I can view which instances are defederated?
I don't mind/am glad not seeing self harm stuff and CSAM content, but if this instance is disconnecting from piracy and hacking related content I'd like to be aware of that.
Check out the "instances" link in the site footer
Here here!
As I understand it, they don't care about being big, they care about having a community of people that align to their principles.
Problem is, if you don't pay too much attention to their server description, you might not realize what their principles are.
I think they got so big because many people were just trying to join any instance under the massive influx, without thinking much about it, and beehaw became much bigger than they intended to be (or expected).
Now that they have defederated from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works, people "not intended" to be there are leaving, that should bring them "more down" than they currently are, I think that's what they actually want.
Beehaw controls their sign-ups. What they don't like are people they have not vetted commenting on posts in their communities. They don't like it because some people were 'trolling and spamming' and they can't keep up with the moderation.
They have 4 admin ls trying to do everything and they are not going to open up until they get moderation tools that make it possible to run a large site with just those 4 people.
Basically, they don't have a philosophy of running a server that is compatible with being in a federated environment.
They are not intended to be a large site, at all.
Whether that's compatible with federation or not, I don't know, but I honestly couldn't care less and I don't get why some people still think it's a big deal.
There were 2 big communities of value on their server but there are already growing alternatives elsewhere, so everything is fine in my book, that's the beauty of the fediverse IMO.
It is only a big deal if new people.sign up there, get a poor impression of what lemmy is, and never try any other lemmy experience again.
That is what the big deal is. People want lemmy to be successful and to grow into a network of servers with good participation.
I dont care what beehaw does, I just feel they should not be listed on discovery sites while they are not sanely federated.
You're right, it's a problem for new users unfortunately, beehaw should be quite more explicit on their server descriptions and rules.
Not sure about delisting them, that would be detrimental to those actually looking for a place like that, but they surely shouldn't recommend people to go there as a general instance, it's not just about federation, even if they were federated, that place is not for everyone.