▲ 1234 ▼ Federal judge orders documents naming Jeffrey Epstein's associates to be unsealed (abcnews.go.com) submitted 2 years ago by Mattster_Of_Puppets@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 200 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.insider.com/noam-chomsky-mit-wsj-wall-street-journal-jeffrey-epstein-2023-4 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) "What was known about Jeffrey Epstein was that he had been convicted of a crime and had served his sentence," Chomsky told the Journal about his meetings. "According to U.S. laws and norms, that yields a clean slate. That's not a bad argument. He said the discussed politics and philosophy. Nothing suggests that there was any minors involved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't see why he wouldn't want that to be public knowledge. What Epstein did was so awful you really would want to clear your name if you had any connection to the man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I agree with you, but also I have seen many times how trigger-happy internet crowd may be. Maybe he thinks that nobody will read an explanation past the first word. Or maybe he's guilty of abuses, we'll hopefully see permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It is freaken Chomsky. Have you heard his name one time? Congratulations, you now have an opinion about him. And said opinion is very very extreme. The man is either an intellectual titan in a wide variety of fields and the one consistent voice of morality for +60 years or batshit insane impractical plagiarism commiting fraud who thinks the best thing western civilization can do is suicide while leaving an apology note. Nothing in between. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Wow, yeah, I only heard part of it, think I should go read a bit permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) I don’t see why he wouldn’t want that to be public knowledge. What Epstein did was so awful you really would want to clear your name if you had any connection to the man. Richard Stallman got cancelled for trying to clear Marvin Minsky's name. Not only had Minsky himself not actually done anything wrong, but Stallman wasn't even connected to Epstein except in a "six degrees of Kevin Bacon" sort of way. Yet he got kicked off the Free Software Foundation board for it anyway (at least until 'truth got its boots on' and folks came to their senses and reinstated him). That's how absolutely radioactive this shit is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Richard Stallman got "cancelled" because he was sexually harassing everybody with boobs and walking on two legs and had been for decades according to people who dealt with him at work and conferences. Oh I am sorry were you hoping I didn't know about that? permalink fedilink source parent [–] stetech@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago You’re not seriously citing Stallman as someone who should be defended, are you? https://drewdevault.com/2023/11/25/2023-11-26-RMS-on-sex.html permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) "What was known about Jeffrey Epstein was that he had been convicted of a crime and had served his sentence," Chomsky told the Journal about his meetings. "According to U.S. laws and norms, that yields a clean slate. That's not a bad argument. He said the discussed politics and philosophy. Nothing suggests that there was any minors involved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't see why he wouldn't want that to be public knowledge. What Epstein did was so awful you really would want to clear your name if you had any connection to the man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I agree with you, but also I have seen many times how trigger-happy internet crowd may be. Maybe he thinks that nobody will read an explanation past the first word. Or maybe he's guilty of abuses, we'll hopefully see permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It is freaken Chomsky. Have you heard his name one time? Congratulations, you now have an opinion about him. And said opinion is very very extreme. The man is either an intellectual titan in a wide variety of fields and the one consistent voice of morality for +60 years or batshit insane impractical plagiarism commiting fraud who thinks the best thing western civilization can do is suicide while leaving an apology note. Nothing in between. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Wow, yeah, I only heard part of it, think I should go read a bit permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) I don’t see why he wouldn’t want that to be public knowledge. What Epstein did was so awful you really would want to clear your name if you had any connection to the man. Richard Stallman got cancelled for trying to clear Marvin Minsky's name. Not only had Minsky himself not actually done anything wrong, but Stallman wasn't even connected to Epstein except in a "six degrees of Kevin Bacon" sort of way. Yet he got kicked off the Free Software Foundation board for it anyway (at least until 'truth got its boots on' and folks came to their senses and reinstated him). That's how absolutely radioactive this shit is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Richard Stallman got "cancelled" because he was sexually harassing everybody with boobs and walking on two legs and had been for decades according to people who dealt with him at work and conferences. Oh I am sorry were you hoping I didn't know about that? permalink fedilink source parent [–] stetech@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago You’re not seriously citing Stallman as someone who should be defended, are you? https://drewdevault.com/2023/11/25/2023-11-26-RMS-on-sex.html permalink fedilink source parent
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't see why he wouldn't want that to be public knowledge. What Epstein did was so awful you really would want to clear your name if you had any connection to the man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I agree with you, but also I have seen many times how trigger-happy internet crowd may be. Maybe he thinks that nobody will read an explanation past the first word. Or maybe he's guilty of abuses, we'll hopefully see permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It is freaken Chomsky. Have you heard his name one time? Congratulations, you now have an opinion about him. And said opinion is very very extreme. The man is either an intellectual titan in a wide variety of fields and the one consistent voice of morality for +60 years or batshit insane impractical plagiarism commiting fraud who thinks the best thing western civilization can do is suicide while leaving an apology note. Nothing in between. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Wow, yeah, I only heard part of it, think I should go read a bit permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) I don’t see why he wouldn’t want that to be public knowledge. What Epstein did was so awful you really would want to clear your name if you had any connection to the man. Richard Stallman got cancelled for trying to clear Marvin Minsky's name. Not only had Minsky himself not actually done anything wrong, but Stallman wasn't even connected to Epstein except in a "six degrees of Kevin Bacon" sort of way. Yet he got kicked off the Free Software Foundation board for it anyway (at least until 'truth got its boots on' and folks came to their senses and reinstated him). That's how absolutely radioactive this shit is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Richard Stallman got "cancelled" because he was sexually harassing everybody with boobs and walking on two legs and had been for decades according to people who dealt with him at work and conferences. Oh I am sorry were you hoping I didn't know about that? permalink fedilink source parent [–] stetech@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago You’re not seriously citing Stallman as someone who should be defended, are you? https://drewdevault.com/2023/11/25/2023-11-26-RMS-on-sex.html permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I agree with you, but also I have seen many times how trigger-happy internet crowd may be. Maybe he thinks that nobody will read an explanation past the first word. Or maybe he's guilty of abuses, we'll hopefully see permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It is freaken Chomsky. Have you heard his name one time? Congratulations, you now have an opinion about him. And said opinion is very very extreme. The man is either an intellectual titan in a wide variety of fields and the one consistent voice of morality for +60 years or batshit insane impractical plagiarism commiting fraud who thinks the best thing western civilization can do is suicide while leaving an apology note. Nothing in between. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Wow, yeah, I only heard part of it, think I should go read a bit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It is freaken Chomsky. Have you heard his name one time? Congratulations, you now have an opinion about him. And said opinion is very very extreme. The man is either an intellectual titan in a wide variety of fields and the one consistent voice of morality for +60 years or batshit insane impractical plagiarism commiting fraud who thinks the best thing western civilization can do is suicide while leaving an apology note. Nothing in between. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Wow, yeah, I only heard part of it, think I should go read a bit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago Wow, yeah, I only heard part of it, think I should go read a bit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) I don’t see why he wouldn’t want that to be public knowledge. What Epstein did was so awful you really would want to clear your name if you had any connection to the man. Richard Stallman got cancelled for trying to clear Marvin Minsky's name. Not only had Minsky himself not actually done anything wrong, but Stallman wasn't even connected to Epstein except in a "six degrees of Kevin Bacon" sort of way. Yet he got kicked off the Free Software Foundation board for it anyway (at least until 'truth got its boots on' and folks came to their senses and reinstated him). That's how absolutely radioactive this shit is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Richard Stallman got "cancelled" because he was sexually harassing everybody with boobs and walking on two legs and had been for decades according to people who dealt with him at work and conferences. Oh I am sorry were you hoping I didn't know about that? permalink fedilink source parent [–] stetech@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago You’re not seriously citing Stallman as someone who should be defended, are you? https://drewdevault.com/2023/11/25/2023-11-26-RMS-on-sex.html permalink fedilink source parent
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Richard Stallman got "cancelled" because he was sexually harassing everybody with boobs and walking on two legs and had been for decades according to people who dealt with him at work and conferences. Oh I am sorry were you hoping I didn't know about that? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stetech@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago You’re not seriously citing Stallman as someone who should be defended, are you? https://drewdevault.com/2023/11/25/2023-11-26-RMS-on-sex.html permalink fedilink source parent