EDIT: we just crossed 30K π₯³
We are now at 28.5K users (see https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list). The top 10 instances also got a decent boost in user count. With the exception of beehaw.org which defederated, the Fediverse is thriving π₯
this post was submitted on 17 Jun 2023
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Funny thing for me, is that Beehaw was the first bit of the Fediverse I ever came across. Tried to sign up, twice, didn't work. So that's how I ended up on .world, the first group I found that didn't want an essay to sign up.
I was on beehaw until they defederated, just seemed like the wrong answer to me and one that will just end up being damaging to Lemmy, especially the way they went about it.
Defederation is kind of a core concept of Lemmy isnβt it?
Well if I didn't understand that I'd not be on this instance now. I just didn't like how they did it with 0 warning when those instances were increasingly a big part of my Lemmy experience, and they could have just asked for people to volunteer as mods. Regardless of how I feel about it, the reason it's damaging is because of how people who don't understand it will view it.
But if you're not on their site, they're not responsible to you. They are responsible to their local community.
They maybe could have spared your admin the courtesy of a "if you can't control this right now, we'll have to defederate" email or something, but if the tools aren't there to keep up, they're not there.
Yeah. People struggle with the idea of "independent websites" when you can view posts from them on other websites.
And when there isn't a hedge fund backing them.
A server has every right to run however they want. I agree.
What I have a problem with are the server discovery tools and sites still listing beehaw as if it is participating in the fedeverse the same way as all of the other truly open servers.
Are you originally from beehaw? I've seen you defending them many times and I almost always agree with your points. Keep up the good work π«‘
Nope. I've never actually directly been to the site.
I just stumbled into Mastodon last April to watch people flee Twitter, and fell in love with the whole distributed social concept.
The Internet was a digital anarchist space when I first encountered it in the 90s, and that's what I want it to be again. And the right to disengage is tied up in that.
Cool. You're a valuable contributor and I hope you stick around. I was also hoping for an opportunity to apologize to beehaw on behalf of my server π€·
This exchange right here, sir.
Wholesome. Thank you.
It is, but also federating is a core-er concept of Lemmy
I was on beehaw too. I'm not happy with the defederation but I understand.
I left but I'm happy it's great if it's working for them. This is why a federation is great, there is option for everyone.
Same. I don't mind a few words to try and convince someone I'm not a bot but it should still be a semiautomatic system (e.g. auto-approve after a few hours if you don't get explicitly denied). I think approvals simply got backed up because 1 or 2 ppl were approving these and it suddenly turned into thousands of applications per hour.
I heard you have to personally fellate the beehaw admins to get approved.
But they do want your email address. Even Reddit didn't require that.
Even if they don't require it, it's always a good idea to setup your email, it's necessary to recover your password in case of problems.
On these types of forums I always figure if I forget my password then it's time to make a new account anyway.
Nothing I post here is essential to me, and I can always find past exchanges from any random account.
And personally, I figure the longer I post under a single persona, the easier it is to connect that persona to my real identity. So account switching is good every once in a while.
I don't think so. I've signed up on beehaw without an email address.
Only if you sign up through old.Reddit. And thatβs because old Reddit is still using legacy code that didnβt require it. The default new Reddit sign up requires an email or signing up through Apple/google accounts.