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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The open adoration for their empire is such a foreign concept to me. I mean we have something similar in Germany but its more abstract, more predicated on looking down on others and congratulating ourselves for our shoddy holocaust remembrance and semi functional welfare systems.

But USians have a whole mythology with hero-epics and grand statues to honor them its like something out of ancient Greece.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yep, and those heros and the apparatus that holds them up as heros has a way of manipulating the narrative to cover for how shitty they were. The Founding Fathers^TM^ and every president we've ever had were and are just as much of blood thirsty psychopaths as Hitler. The difference being that the genocides of expansion were more complete, the narratives more controlled using soft language and double speak, and the current campaigns externalized and reframed through economic trickery and exploitation of the underdeveloped world.

Hitler and the Holocaust didn't have the retail repackaging for the pubic like American Empire does. Not enough treats, too vulgar and direct.

That's my take anyway. Idk, it's late and I'm tired.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

The Founding FathersTM and every president we've ever had were and are just as much of blood thirsty psychopaths as Hitler.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But USians have a whole mythology with hero-epics and grand statues to honor them its like something out of ancient Greece.

yeah there's a bunch of founder wank for the ancient greeks. it's also why a bunch of our civic buildings have greek (maybe athenian specifically? it's been a minute) architectural features

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Everyone at the time was hugely into the neo-classical style, it's just that Europe grew out of it faster than the US did. (Sadly)