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This isn't really my idea, but Will mentioned it on the latest Chapo.
Do Democrats actually like winning? Being in charge sucks. It's a lot easier for the party to have unity when they're not in power. Not to mention all the fundraising when liberals stop going to Brunch.
I think they'll let Biden run and lose.
Apparently the Trillbilly podcast also touched on this too. I don't like paying for podcasts but I am tempted to with them.
I'm with you on paying for podcasts, but I like to support Trillbillies
x. the established DNC types like their jobs. it's really that simple i think.
someone like bernie who potentially could've gotten in there to fire consultants, staffers, etc. and hire people that actually give a fuck is a threat.
as far as winning/losing elections, they prefer to win. without a doubt. more campaign/party donations from pacs and corporations, more lobbyist bribes. but everything always goes back to x. above.
Democrats have been in a position for a long time where they tend to make more money in fundraising when they're losing or on the backfoot. It doesn't matter if they win, they still get book deals and a big pile of money if they're in power or not. They have no need to win. Whereas with Republicans, all of them are vying to become this year's oil billionaire darling
Yes. I think they do actually want to win. At least most of them do. I think the problem is the DNC has a more fundamental contradiction of interests (not contradiction in the Marxist sense) than the GOP does. The GOP can serve the economic interests of the elite and then fuck over everyone else so long as they make the white people feel special. That’s the deal that’s always been in place, let the bourgeoisie have everything they want so long as the white folks are given a special place via free land / treats / feelings of superiority.
The Democrats don’t have that. The donors they represent are fundamentally at odds with large amounts of their supporters. There is no way to serve the interests of the workers, young people, and POC that support them and also the bourgeoisie. So the DNC is forced to do things they know will piss off their electorate because they can’t cross the donors. And it’s not just that they want the money so they can pocket it, but also because money wins elections. If I want to get really speculative, I would say the reason the left gets so much pressure to
is because deep down, the libs know what’s going on. They know if we don’t just go along with getting screwed over the Democratic Party would collapse.