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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The right wing extremism will always be imminent. It's like a show that ends every episode on a cliffhanger to try to keep audiences watching. Hillary gave us Trump: https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/

Then she positioned herself as the only solution. It's funny when people say "OMG HILLARY WAS RIGHT" yeah, of course she could tell the outcome of a situation she was key in creating. She wanted that presidency and she was willing to promote fascists to get there. Vote for her or die. This is basically the only democrat strategy now. I'm going to keep voting for democrats anyway because our system has no real choice, but don't use this situation to shield democrats from criticism, they deserve plenty of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

It's funny when people say "OMG HILLARY WAS RIGHT" yeah, of course she could tell the outcome of a situation she was key in creating.

That's s stupid comment regardless of which candidate or election you're taking about. "Hillary warned us about Trump!" Of course she did. She was running against Trump! She would've warned us about her opponent regardless of who it was. In fact, if she didn't do that, she would be a shitty campaigner.

You know who else Hillary warned us about? Bernie Sanders!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

This is all 100%.

Criticizing them doesn't matter though. They're still happy and rich if they lose.

The fight won't be small jabs, it will be big and all at once

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I’m going to keep voting for democrats anyway because our system has no real choice

Yeah... people are quick to point out that Republicans can't win elections without massive voter repression - but they never admit that Democrats can't win without literally threatening everyone with the other side's fascism, either.

It's been that way ever since the Obama betrayal - and that's not something corporate liberalism will ever deserve forgiveness for.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

they never admit that Democrats can't win without literally threatening everyone with the other side's fascism...

That's some absurd reasoning. "pointing out how the GOP are literally acting like fascists is the stupid Democrats fault".

Get the fuck out of here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's been that way ever since the Obama betrayal

It was that way during the 2004 Bush v. Kerry election and probably the 2000 Bush v. Gore election, too. (I don't remember much about 2000 because I wasn't really paying attention to politics yet.) And it probably goes back even further than that.

You know all of the rhetoric used against Trump? They were saying all of the same things about W. Bush.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Obama was very different... when Obama promised change people believed him. People don't really talk about this... but I believe that Obama delivering nothing except more of the same was the last time people who voted Dem would ever trust corporate liberals ever again. There was a break there that the Dems can never fix, and deservedly so. It's the reason why the Dem strategy to win elections now pretty much boils down to "vote for us or we hand you over to the fascists."