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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Pretty sure it's the same mentality as you see other places.

"I was a Nazi, so I get to tell you what is a Nazi, why they became a Nazi, why..." whatever else. Like when right wingers "become reformed" (they just mean they watch different YouTube videos but with the same overall themes) so they get to police "the left" on what is beneficial towards our goals and such. And their discord logs always leak and it's always full of the most colorful and unsurprising racist and homophobic slurs you can think of. But they know better and we should listen to them because they've "been there" or whatever.

If you came from such a background and just suddenly became aware that racism is bad I do not value your criticism of "from the river to the sea" chants or the name "black lives matter" for a movement. I don't care, the people who are oppressed and suffering don't care, the only ones who care are the liberals, which these "reformed right wingers" always still are. If they were actually radicalized to the left they'd not be saying the above dipshittery.

There's probably some fancy psychological term for people who realize they were wrong to some degree, change their opinions, but still remain overly critical of the opinion they claim to have changed to.

I have to imagine there's a lot of that going on with Germans broadly. "I truly understand this because my grandfather did it." As if an outsider can't... read? There's a lot of weird shit tied up in it and on the subject of Israel Germany is so incredibly wrong that it's almost shocking. All I can think is "you motherfuckers learned NOTHING!" There takeaway doesn't seem to be "genocide is bad" but rather "genocide is bad... depending on who is doing it."

There's probably some guilt element tied up in it and some level of "fear" that as a German they can NEVER speak out against Israel because people will immediately go "German accent? Nazi." which might have some truth to it, but they aren't beating the stereotype by openly supporting another genocide now.