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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

It’s mostly just large. 4 crew instead of 3 and an auto-loader, and they focus on extra thick composite armor instead of a mix of that and reactive armor. And meanwhile, the t-72’s an extension of old Soviet philosophy that a smaller tank was that much harder to hit, so everything’s packed as tight as possible, while you could almost have a small cookout in the abrams.

/Edit - And as mentioned elsewhere, the abrams is stupidly heavy at this point and has even gained something like 20 tons over the years. A smaller, lighter tank has less problems crossing softer terrain and getting over rickety bridges.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah but does the t72 get half a mile to the gallon like the Abrams? Fuel economy is for commies and women.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

It's due to the gas turbine. Soviet T-80 with gas turbine is also shit at fuel economy (and that was why it didn't become a new main tank instead of T-72).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Does all that composite armor stand up to more modern kinetic rounds and tandem warheads? Surely they get some benefit from it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That’s one of those things where it’s really hard to tell. They all claim different capabilities but the proof is classified (and even somewhat untested). Composite will give you almost no-gap coverage though, and any nearby folks will be happier if you aren’t waltzing around with outward facing explosives all over your tank. But, many Abrams in Iraq added reactive armor all over the less protected sides to help counter RPG’s, so…

I’d mainly say it’s just easier to retrofit an older tank with ERA blocks than it is to design and produce a whole new one with thicker integrated armor.