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Calls are growing for the UN Security Council to be reformed after the US became the only member to use its veto power to block a Gaza ceasefire resolution, a move welcomed by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The UN chief says he will keep pushing for peace.

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[–] [email protected] 194 points 11 months ago (39 children)

Nothing changed on the UNSC when Russia vetoed the resolution to leave Ukraine.

I'm not educated enough to say which is a "worse" violation of the principles the UN stands for, but I'll go out on a limb and say nothing will change this time, either.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, the whole idea of countries being able to veto UN resolutions are leading to exactly this, Russia vetoing all resolutions condemning their aggression in Ukraine and the US vetoing all resolutions concerning Israel.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m not sure how a resolution condemning anything is helpful, and I don’t know why Israel and Hamas need the UN for a cease fire.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The "resolution" the UN needs to come to here, in my opinion, is to put the whole area (Israel and Palestine) under UN control until something equitable can be worked out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

UN control is notorious for not working out well, and liking children too much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not working out well compared to what's happening now? And you think children are being protected from anything now?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

No, of course not. There is just a very poor reputation for UN Peace keeping forces, so giving them martial law in one of the most contested places in the world might not end any better.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

Who's to say the call for reform is only motivated by the most recent ridiculous veto?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I’m not educated enough to say which is a “worse” violation of the principles the UN stands for, but I’ll go out on a limb and say nothing will change this time, either.

Russia wants to annex a country. Israel is fighting a terrorist group. Russia is worse.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Russia wants to annex a country. Israel is fighting a terrorist group.

Isreal has been slowly annexing bits of Palestine for decades. Those terrorists are the latest reaction to that.

Not that their violence against Israel is a good thing - far from it, but it's also not surprising.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Russia wants to annex a country. Israel is ~~fighting~~ a terrorist group.

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