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Why are some right wing talking points similar to communist ones (Russia/Ukraine) (hexbear.net)

submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I'm trying to learn more about the Russia/Ukraine conflict. In the articles that I find that seem to be critical of Ukraine, there are a few that are right wing that seem to have similar viewpoints as what I've read on here or in the more leftist articles.

For example this piece from National Interest, or this from the CATO institute.

There are others that aren't flagged as right wing that are critical, but it's just got me wondering, why would right wing politicians/publications perceive these things similarly to how some communists would when the ideologies of both are so extremely opposite?

Disclaimer: I'm not pro-ukraine at all, but in my search for info that's not super pro-Ukraine propaganda, this is the stuff that comes up for me

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for this; I think having a understanding of "realism" helps to frame it a bit, which I didn't have prior. One of the articles I linked is from an agency led by Kissinger I think, so that framework is the main influence there. I haven't kept up with anything about China, Russia, or Ukraine so I think that lends to my confusion not being able to connect all of those dots.

Would China be more of a threat due to its economic growth?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Yes, their manufacturing growth is a threat; they're helping third world countries build infrastructure and reduce dependence on Western finance; their rising living standards endanger the narrative of capitalist superiority; but worst of all is that they don't let Western capital - especially financial and tech capital - have unfettered access to their population.

The wet dream of every Wall Street and Silicon Valley ghoul is to crack China open, balkanize it, neoliberalize it and drain all the blood out of its people like they did to Russia in the 90s. Imagine what 1.8 billion additional people would do to Facebook's ad revenue or Blackrock's rental income.