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I'm trying to learn more about the Russia/Ukraine conflict. In the articles that I find that seem to be critical of Ukraine, there are a few that are right wing that seem to have similar viewpoints as what I've read on here or in the more leftist articles.

For example this piece from National Interest, or this from the CATO institute.

There are others that aren't flagged as right wing that are critical, but it's just got me wondering, why would right wing politicians/publications perceive these things similarly to how some communists would when the ideologies of both are so extremely opposite?

Disclaimer: I'm not pro-ukraine at all, but in my search for info that's not super pro-Ukraine propaganda, this is the stuff that comes up for me

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

I agree with most of what you're saying but I think that the US vastly underestimated both Russia and China's economic resilience. The US still achieved its goals of cannibalizing European capital, but it failed to inflict a battlefield loss or economic recession on Russia, who is now growing faster than the European powers. China is knocking down semiconductor trade barriers one by one by developing their own chips and stealing diplomatic marches (like the Iran-Saudi reprochmen) on the US empire without any warning. Moreover, China continues to respond to American provocations over Taiwan with the kind of political sangfroid that is only possible when you don't have to pander to voters ever 4 years.

The jury is also still out on just how much cannibalizing EU capital will help America in the long term. The whole NATO bloc is now having trouble producing enough 155mm shells to outproduce just Russia. China has 200x the shipyard capacity of the US and the gap is growing.

I think that the US is doing what it calculates to be its only good options, but its calculations are off because it refuses to see anything except its own bloated GDP.