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Why are some right wing talking points similar to communist ones (Russia/Ukraine) (hexbear.net)

submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I'm trying to learn more about the Russia/Ukraine conflict. In the articles that I find that seem to be critical of Ukraine, there are a few that are right wing that seem to have similar viewpoints as what I've read on here or in the more leftist articles.

For example this piece from National Interest, or this from the CATO institute.

There are others that aren't flagged as right wing that are critical, but it's just got me wondering, why would right wing politicians/publications perceive these things similarly to how some communists would when the ideologies of both are so extremely opposite?

Disclaimer: I'm not pro-ukraine at all, but in my search for info that's not super pro-Ukraine propaganda, this is the stuff that comes up for me

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The Neocons fully expected to win in Ukraine, regime change Russia and balkanize Russia. This was has been a disaster for them that has tilted the balance of world power towards Russia/China/Iran, not away from them

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

It doesn’t matter. Europe is already destroyed, that’s what mattered. Russia is irrelevant on the grand economic scale. What the US really fears is China, but BRICS still hasn’t come up with a way to dedollarize, and that’s still a win for the US.

The US empire cannot be defeated without dedollarization. More precisely, the US will go through its own decline but so long as the rest of the world is still tied to the dollar, the periphery will be the ones to take the brunt of the damage while the US will be the last one to go down.

The real problem is nobody knows how to cut ties with the dollar cleanly, so everyone is just dragging their feet instead of going for the short term pain. That’s exactly how the system is designed to work.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Russia is the strongest military on Earth probably at this time and is absolutely not irrelevant, you sound like the libs who called them a gas station masquerading as a nation. Russia outproduces all of EU and America in war production by orders of magnitude. Stop looking at GDP numbers.

The EU being cannabalized is a long term loss for the anglo-American empire as it’s weaker than ever.

Also if the goal was to separate Russia from China or weaken Russia they have only accomplished the opposite

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

The problem is no one knows how to cut ties with the dollar cleanly

Delinking would be a good start.