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Why are some right wing talking points similar to communist ones (Russia/Ukraine) (hexbear.net)

submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I'm trying to learn more about the Russia/Ukraine conflict. In the articles that I find that seem to be critical of Ukraine, there are a few that are right wing that seem to have similar viewpoints as what I've read on here or in the more leftist articles.

For example this piece from National Interest, or this from the CATO institute.

There are others that aren't flagged as right wing that are critical, but it's just got me wondering, why would right wing politicians/publications perceive these things similarly to how some communists would when the ideologies of both are so extremely opposite?

Disclaimer: I'm not pro-ukraine at all, but in my search for info that's not super pro-Ukraine propaganda, this is the stuff that comes up for me

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

liberals of all stripes (conservative or otherwise) do not really hold steadfast lines on these topics; their opinions shift with the breeze. So right now conservatives have a position which aligns with communists but as soon as it is convenient or materially beneficial to switch to the pro-ukraine side they will. As others have stated there are a few ideological things going on for supporting russia at least, but I really think that the calculus comes down to cynical political convenience.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's really difficult for me to understand people who don't have strong convictions. Like I get how, perhaps, but it's so foreign to me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I feel you. I've definitely gotten screwed because I trust people at their word too easily. Also, I think they do have strong convictions it's just that those convictions are self-interested.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I guess the idea of being so self interested that you'll sacrifice your integrity is l what I have more trouble with, I suppose. Like I don't trust conservatives at all, I just could never put myself in their shoes to get why they think what they do in a lot of instances