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I'm trying to learn more about the Russia/Ukraine conflict. In the articles that I find that seem to be critical of Ukraine, there are a few that are right wing that seem to have similar viewpoints as what I've read on here or in the more leftist articles.

For example this piece from National Interest, or this from the CATO institute.

There are others that aren't flagged as right wing that are critical, but it's just got me wondering, why would right wing politicians/publications perceive these things similarly to how some communists would when the ideologies of both are so extremely opposite?

Disclaimer: I'm not pro-ukraine at all, but in my search for info that's not super pro-Ukraine propaganda, this is the stuff that comes up for me

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I don't think there's even a need of critical support to Russia as the later is as eager as the USA to expand and export its imperialist core, that is the capital, to the said buffer states. These imperialist viewpoints are disguise as "geopolitical interests" for the so called Russian government without genuinely asking for the consent from the Ukrainian people. The fact that Putin and his gang denies the concept of Ukrainian nation is an evidence that it is nothing but a fascist state. Not saying that whatever Ukrainian government doing is great, as we know that Zelensky banning on the Russian language and the employment of the Nazis in their programme are well known to the leftist circle. I'm simply treating it as a proxy war between two decaying imperialist powers fighting against each other. I only throw my pity on the Ukrainian and Russian people for their suffering in this meaningless war.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What capital is Russia exporting to which buffer states?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

They don't know, they're full of shit. Russia is famously low capital

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

even so, supporting the imperialist that is not currently the global hegemon is the correct move towards weakening imperialism, no? obviously the only reason russia (its ruling class at least) is fighting the US is because it wants the same status, or at least similar geopolitical dominance of its region, but it is still fighting the US and its interests all the same. aren't 2 competing imperialists interfering with each other's imperialist goals better for the rest of the world than 1 unified imperialist coalition that can sweep aside any and all resistance with ease?

this is what we mean by critical support, we are critical of the theory and politics of russia, but conditionally and temporarily condone in some senses particular actions by russia against US global hegemony. if russia was the primary global right-wing hegemon exporting nazi-ism and terror throughout the world instead of the USA the positions would likely be reversed. even if you think russia is just a less powerful version of all those things the US is, we would prefer to see our enemies fight each other rather than team up.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I don't think there's even a need of critical support to Russia as the later is as eager as the USA to expand and export its imperialist core, that is the capital, to the said buffer states.

That's not what imperialist core means (phrase is imperial core and it refers to a region and populace, not capital). Imperialism requires a lot more than simple export of capital. They also are not imperialist in this case, just as Saddam Hussein wasn't imperialist to resist US invasion. Russia has plenty of domestic areas for investment and are famously the lowest capital-to-asset ratio in the capitalist world. Russia is not capital rich. They aren't imperialist. Stop repeating this Liberal lie and misanalysis. Russia's economy resembles that of a colonized resource nation, not an imperialist financialized economy. They are anti-imperialist and destroying imperialist outposts. They are allied with all AES. Wake the fuck up and get on the right side of the line, I'll be celebrating when Ukraine's fascist junta is destroyed and NATO is kicked out of Eastern Europe.