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Just wondering what everyone thinks about this. In almost every place I've worked coworkers with right wing beliefs are never shy about giving their opinion and views on things.

The major talking points are usually variations of stuff like: we spend to much on beneficiaries and they should stop being lazy and get a job. That poor people have kids so they can get free money from the government. We need or be tougher on crime. Even absurd shit like being outraged that a homeless person had a smartphone and indulging in such lavishness is why they're homeless etc etc

Some of the shit I hear from otherwise seemingly lovely people is insane. I feel like I have to be so much more measured and have all my 'evidence' ready to defend my commie beliefs while these people can just say whatever bullshit they want and everybody just kinda nods in agreement.

Is this a normal thing in the Angloverse? Is it because their views are essentially the status quo already and they have just fully internalised the capitalist propeganda?

Please let me know

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Is it because their views are essentially the status quo already and they have just fully internalised the capitalist propeganda?

That's pretty close imo. I'd just add that most of them have never set foot outside of capitalist propaganda

Every part of their media diet is bourgeois media, because naturally the owning class owns that too. The views presented to them with any degree of fidelity are necessarily non-threatening to bourgeois rule, and they make up the range of views that people feel are normal. Conservative bile is acceptable, and liberal outlets for empathy such as charity and saying to vote are too

Meanwhile, in much of the west including the US, it has been outright illegal in recent history to be left-wing. Even now that it isn't explicitly illegal in the US, we have Stop Cop City protesters being charged as an anarchist terrorist conspiracy