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[-] Rabid_Dog@hexbear.net 0 points 5 years ago* (last edited 5 years ago)

Wow have you ever read Lenin? The initial stages of socialism resemble state capitalism, since socialism emerges out of capitalism. Because they don’t leap to full communism, we must condemn!

The trends are in the right direction. Everything is going according to plan. Just chill the fuck out chauvinist. Have some patience and some solidarity.

[-] anthm17@hexbear.net 0 points 5 years ago

It's not chauvinist to criticize material conditions.

What's the point of having a communist party if you are going to allow capitalist working conditions and exploitation? Just pull a USSR and collapse so capitalism can run it's natural course if that's really your take.

Anyway, for me the material argument that dominates a lot of this is that china is still developing.

We see they passed the US by some metrics and the constant fear mongering in the US and I feel like I forget that sometimes. If something like poor conditions for otherwise well off tech workers takes time to address because there are still worse problems sucking up attention that makes sense. Workers fighting back also makes sense.

[-] Rabid_Dog@hexbear.net 1 points 5 years ago

Conditions are improving year over year. What’s the point of being a communist if you demand instant perfection and ignore the real results in front of your face?

[-] anthm17@hexbear.net 1 points 5 years ago

I'm not, making improvements is good.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't examine and question.

Learn so much more about China on here from discussion and reading. it's good as long as we don't let it devolve into "China bad".

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