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Fuck a ceasefire, END APARTHEID!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, resistance to apartheid would be cool, awesome, and good, but if you and yours aren't the ones to fight, then it'd be weird if the would-be combatants don't want to fight. Violence fucking sucks. It's not fun, it's not glorious, and even when your enemy is wretched, it doesn't feel good to snuff out their life. Even the Japanese in WW2 were convinced to stop in the face of overwhelming violence when, before, they had elements in power saying they'd rather be exterminated than give up.

I'll keep yelling into the void about how unpleasant it would be if you were in a grappling match with a hobbyist BJJ player who was being rough with you as a benchmark for a violent altercation. Then go on about how much worse it would get when the person's intentions get meaner, their training increases, and their weapons get larger. Not to mention the collateral damage of having family members die pinned by the debris of a fallen hospital. I wouldn't want to risk the violence befalling my loved ones which is Israel's modus operandi. Calling for more of it is like being Eren Yeager. It'd be a perfectly sane position for a Palestinian to not want more bloodshed. In the pure world, the land of the free would pursue justice for Palestine having seen the insanity of Israel and seek the unraveling of the apartheid regime.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even the Japanese in WW2 were convinced to stop in the face of overwhelming violence when, before, they had elements in power saying they'd rather be exterminated than give up.

I heard they actually were just insisting the soviets be at the treaty negotiations so they didn't have to negotiate two peaces

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I'm ready to believe that. A source would still be nice.

I would also put forward that overwhelming force, even without an atomic bomb, was enough to convince people who beforehand would have preferred that the island be exterminated.