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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

where in the article does it say that democrats are being targeted? In addition, I feel user Ragdoll is correct that the title makes it seem worse that the situation actually was (though I guess there isn't an easier way to write the title), the SUV was not occupied when the criminals tried to break in. If you're targeting someone, you probably at least have an idea of who should be inside and whether they just stepped out of the vehicle or stepped in. I doubt the vehicle literally said Biden or "Biden's family inside" so I doubt it was a group of people walking around, and taking the opportunity to attack Biden or his family. In addition, the article indicates that car jacking have increased 40% in the area, so it really seems like it was a random car jacking.

I kind of think the bigger story is, why were Secret Service shooting at suspects trying to enter an empty vehicle? Unless there were firearms in the vehicle, feels a bit excessive to potentially kill 1 to 4 people over a car break in where no one's life was in direct danger.

Maybe there's more missing details that clear up the story so we'd have to wait and see.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I kind of think the bigger story is, why were Secret Service shooting at suspects trying to enter an empty vehicle?

Someone can correct me if I am wrong, isn't law enforcement taught to shoot first and then maybe ask questions later?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

No no no, you're thinking of the Army. The police are trained to shoot first, cover up the shooting, find/make up past crime the victim did to justify the shooting, get acquitted by a grand jury, and receive a full pension later.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No. There's, generally speaking, rules if engagement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why did they shoot at someone trying to enter an empty vehicle?

Maybe from a security perspective the position is that they assume anyone trying to get into a vehicle they are protecting is intending to harm the occupants, even if the occupants are not in the vehicle and the perps don’t know that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No but thats still, you're not protecting anyone you're just shooting

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t disagree. However, I’m not the SS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They were probably pointing their guns at them and one of them turned around to face them way too quickly.