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[–] 57 points 2 years ago (20 children)

Clear bullshit, right?

If Ukraine could pull this off, I could pull this off. I refuse to believe that international infrastructure could be so vulnerable.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    a six-person team that rented a sailboat under false identities and used deep-sea diving equipment to place explosive charges on the gas pipelines

    I doubt I could do it without getting caught, but the fact that I could cripple Europe's economy with a sailboat and a few explosives is terrifying.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Are you an expert deep sea diver?

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    That's something a person could viably become. I think the point is that there was a lack of institutional power or actual military equipment or anything else beyond the reach of an individual being used here.

    "But thousands of pounds of explosives"

    Yeah, that's probably the hardest part, but it's not like any of it was particularly artisanal.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Whose economy is crippled lol

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    The HCOB Eurozone Manufacturing PMI came in at 43.1 in October 2023, down from 43.4 in September and compared with a preliminary estimate of 43. This marked the sixteenth consecutive month that the Eurozone's manufacturing sector has been in contraction territory, and the sharpest in three months

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Won't know until in a few decades it all gets declassified but my bet was always a US Navy Special Warfare team, aka SEAL team. That is who the US uses for such operations. Previous week there had been US Navy units doing exercises in the general area. The level of hostility, type of aggressive narrative control, and how key US outlets were already standing ready to suppress certain details made it suspicious from the start.

    The US uses the same playbook again and again, makes people suspicious even when the US might not have been involved in events.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You would be surprised what you can do. Most of the time the only things that prevent people from doing actions like this are societal convention or the feeling that you have too much to lose. These fears are compounded by copaganda that convinces you that detectives will ultimately find out that it was you that committed the act. The truth is that anyone who is knowledgeable and possesses certain resources can perform acts like this with only a small group of people and get away with it, maybe not always with a clean record though.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    all the targets i would want to fedposting are high profile enough that they'd have the competent spooks looking into it

    like if you get a militia together you can probably liberate a concentration camp but nobody is getting away with that

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I mean it's still a state. Lot easier to forge all kinds of documents and get stuff if you'rea already a state.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    i think we're capable of more than we think

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    The amount of explosives and specialist diving equipment required to do this is actually not trivial.

    The idea half a dozen dudes did this in a small yacht is laughable.

    The nato ships doing “exercises” to “train” for exactly this type of operation that were in the exact area about 2 weeks beforehand is the immensely more plausible explanation, which points to the UK and USA, probably with the cooperation of Denmark since it was just near to their waters and observation area.

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