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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They give plenty of time for appeals and additional evidence as a due course of justice for a fair trail as preserved by the 6th ammendment.

michael-laugh

that's the lie we tell children but if you figure out the false conviction rate and do the math, the amerikkka executes innocent people and doesn't give a shit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You're wrong, and it was trivial to find that information.

But I guess your bomb ass reaction sticker and America on fire flag raises an excellent point.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The part you're being criticised for is the part where you gargle the boot over the concept that people get a fair trial and "due course of justice" when at least 4% of people are falsely convicted and sentenced to death.

You're absolutely out of your mind if you think the system is fair when nearly a minimum of 1 in 20 people sentence to death by it shouldn't be there.

You are an extremely propagandised person living in the most propagandised nation on earth, you should do something about this. You have completely and totally internalised the national propaganda to the point of regurgitating it uncritically like you're a fucking school text book. It is exactly what we mean when we say americans have a civil religion.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What are you talking about? The piece you linked doesn't include the percentage of post-mortem exonerations at all. It doesn't even deal with them. It just says that most prisoners have been there for long periods of time and any exonerations that do occur happen well after a decade has passed, which has led to longer and longer death-row sentences, a sign that the death-row system in the U.S., to the degree that it is used at all, is fundamentally broken, as it has essentially become life in prison, not the actual punishment handed down by the court.

The U.S. has undoubtedly executed innocent people, particularly before DNA evidence was prevelant, there was a case in 2009 where the Innocence Project of Texas proved using DNA evidence that a man who was falsely convicted of rape was innocent post-mortem.

However, how many, and exactly what percentage is will probably never be known, as the bar for an appeal and exoneration, particularly post-mortem, is high (requiring new evidence to be presented). This is also compounded by the general lack of interest and funding for pursuing these cases. With the limited resources of innocence projects and the fact that you can't put the cat back in the bag, most projects focus the majority of their efforts on the living.