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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (5 children)

An email recently released by the whistleblowing organization WikiLeaks shows how the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party bear direct responsibility for propelling the bigoted billionaire to the White House.

In its self-described “pied piper” strategy, the Clinton campaign proposed intentionally cultivating extreme right-wing presidential candidates, hoping to turn them into the new “mainstream of the Republican Party” in order to try to increase Clinton’s chances of winning.

Ah, the real reason people hate WikiLeaks. It exposed the truth, but rather than focus on the truth people focused on the messenger.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My brother in OSRS, they had emails from the Republican Party as well, but didn't release them because they said there was nothing interesting in them. I don't disagree at all that Clinton's strategy was inappropriate, but there's plenty of legitimate reasons to dislike WikiLeaks. Ironically, there's a lack of transparency on them. They should've released the GOP emails.

WikiLeaks has a problem when we need a WikiLeaks for WikiLeaks.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My brother in Middle Earth, the hate started long before WikiLeaks allegedly had any Republican emails, and even searching for the subject now I can't find anything that says WikiLeaks had them.

Edit: I found a source, reading it again pretty much tells the whole story (it wasn't emails but "information on the Trump campaign"): https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/293453-assange-wikileaks-trump-info-no-worse-than-him/

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh of course some people said that. Doesn't mean they're right though. And even so, they should've released that information on the trump campaign

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What information could they possibly have that is worse than what we already know about Trump? He could eat babies on stage and 30% of people would still vote for him.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Something like the Trump campaign bribing the RNC early on. You could have the exact same things going on that the DNC did.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think that would change anything. He's done far worse than that, and quite brazenly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think it might've in 2016, but who knows.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sadly the republicans had zero say in their slide to right wing extremism and could do nothing about it. It's not like their flirtation with the Tea Party movement meant anything.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Yup, poor poor Republicans... They don't actually agree with all the things they say on Facebook or memes they share, or political violence they wish for or enact. Poor Republicans, it was all the evil Democrats that made Republicans be who they are. It's really a shame that they have absolutely no brain of their own that they just go with whatever the Democrats make them do. We should be lead by that party though, because they're "free thinkers"

....wait

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

It's not just Trump either they've used the strategy for many insane Republican primary candidates.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Repiblicans are maniacs and Democrats are retarded. Story as old as time.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Republicans are retarded maniacs and Democrats are gaslighting hypocrites who play dumb when called out on their bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It exposed the truth, but rather than focus on the truth people focused on the messenger.

In this case, the media also focused on the messenger and gave Hillary a pass on the actual contents of those e-mails.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hilarious mistake.

I suppose this would have been effective if even a fraction of the Republican voterbase was reasonable.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hilarious mistake.

The mistake wasn't elevating Trump, but running in the first place.

There's a very real chance she'd have lost to Ted Cruz or Jeb Bush in a non-Trump national campaign, simply because she was a weak candidate with an awful reputation in the Midwest. There's a reason she struggled in the primary, both in 2008 and 2016, against a couple of political outsiders despite having an enormous financial and name-recognition advantage.

You can't win the Presidency without Michigan, Ohio, and Wisconsin. And Hillary was never going to win those states, under any alternative opponent. She lost Pennsylvannia, ffs. No viable Democrat loses Pennsylvania.