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I'm not very informed on modern China and there's a ton of sources accusing China of killing and even harvesting organs from Uyghurs and Falun Gong believers.

Is there any truth to those claims or is it all pigpoop ?

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You're missing one step in that: when those counter-terrorism programs were first rolled out the western media railed against them as being too soft compared to the preferred western strategy of random air strikes and entrapping alienated kids with fake terror plots. It was only years later, when the programs were being wound down as no longer necessary, that the western media started pushing the "genocide" conspiracy theory.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

when those counter-terrorism programs were first rolled out the western media railed against them as being too soft compared to the preferred western strategy

Reminds me of the critique of China's COVID policy.

First it was the stupid lazy peasants and their wet markets, the incompetent bureaucrats who couldn't enforce a quarantine, and the primitive medical technology of backwards China that caused a rapid spread of the disease.

Then, China got their epidemic under control while it ran rampant in the US. The media narrative shifted to claim that Chinese quarantine controls were outright fascist, that police were brutalizing people in the name of quarantine, and that actually this whole thing was a high tech invention of the evil geniuses at the Wuhan Lab who had engineered a virus specifically targeted to Western DNA.

Whatever China does is wrong. The policies don't matter. The results don't matter. The relative comparison to US policies don't matter. It's bad and it's wrong and the Chinese government shouldn't be allowed to continue existing for the sack of their own people.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget the narrative that china was lying about their numbers the whole time because there's no way a bunch of ASIANS could do better than WHITE AMERICANS.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I always like to ask people if Taiwan, which had similar measures and infection/fatality rates as mainland China, is also lying about their numbers.

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