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Ignoring venom and poison, the most dangerous animal a human could realistically win against would be a wolf. That doesn't mean I could win against a wolf, but some humans can and have.
IDK. People have wrestled bears.
There was that one guy that choked a bear to death with the bloody stump of his wrist after the bear bit his hand off, so I'd say that counts as a technical win.
Wait, choked as in strangled or as in shoved his arm down its throat?
The latter 💪
Pretty messed up story. Possibly a tall tale.
We take those. - Every living creature ever.
I thought that was Roosevelt's buddy and a mountain lion.
Don't threaten us with a good time 😉
(https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/6084564c-3486-42fe-85c7-c7bce387c759.jpeg) Have you seen how big wolves are? Most people can't take on a pit bull, wolves are literal predators.
We should be talking about the average person being able to win >50% of the time, not the ideal human who wins on an off-chance.
Personally, I'm guessing I'd be somewhere in the range of a medium sized calf
Calf is a good ballpark. I think I could take a whitetail doe but not a buck, and that's about the same range.
The average human is very far removed from peak human.
It's easy, you just put your fist out so the wolf bites down on it. Then you simply shove your whole arm down its throat.
Chimpanzees are on the same level I think. Although I’d rather fight a chimpanzee than a wolf.
You stand absolutely no chance against a chimp in unarmed combat. They've literally ripped people's faces off.
Unprepared people. Chimps aren’t stronger than humans.
Chimps are significantly stronger than humans. https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-40405026
According to that article, about 1.5 times stronger. There's a lot more deviation than that in the human population. So going by that article, if the type of person who could take on a wolf got lucky enough to be matched with an average chimp, I think they'd have a chance. Especially if they can think of a way to take advantage of the chimp's poor endurance (also in the article).
"hey Frank, bet I can beat you in a 5k before we fight..."
This is a per muscle size comparison. Chimps are also significantly smaller than humans.
Chimps get up to 5ft tall and can have an 8 foot wingspan.
Pssh, chimps don't have wings.
Humans get up to 2 m (6,75 feet) tall, of course there are even taller people but this is still a healthy size. Also chimps weigh like 70 kg max while a human can be healthy weigh more than 90 kg. The question is if we get a matched opponent in terms of strength and body weight relative to their own species.
You're right, I didn't think about your intense face strengthening regime you will be conducting in preparation for this.
I'd much rather go up against a wolf than a chimpanzee. Chimps are crazy strong, bite, and have hands to grasp and tear with
Plus they're smart and dextrous enough to use tools!
They also love ripping off people’s genitals, faces etc…
And they have lots of hands.
Chimpanzees get up to five feet tall and have up to an 8 foot wingspan. The average human female is 5'4 "and males average 5'9" with a proportional wingspan. Chimps have a very high amount of fast twitch muscle fibers which are significantly stronger than the slow twitch muscle fibers that make up the majority of human muscles.
Chimps have extremely long arms with way more lean muscle mass. And that muscle mass is 50% stronger than a human's, making chimps 3-4 times stronger than the average human. It has massive incisors with a bite force of *** 1300 psi (8900 kPa}***. That's more than a grizzly bear's 950 psi.
You have a fighting chance against a wolf. You have zero chance unarmed against a full grown chimp. It will literally rip you apart with ease.
Extra scary fact: Chimps try to bite your face off in a fight.
Yes, you'd be without a nose and eyes within seconds. Good luck for the rest of the fight.
You use average for humans and up to for chimps? Also body weight is a far better comparison and a strong and large human can weigh at least 1.5 times more than a chimp so the strength difference isn’t great if at all present.
You're the person that dies first in a horror movie because you're too stubborn to listen to actual facts presented to you. Chimps are absolute killing machines. I don't care if you're 6 foot 6 and 250 pounds of pure muscle - you will not win a fight against a fully grown chimpanzee. They have two 1+ inch fangs and a bite force of 1300psi. That's enough to bite clean through most any bone in your body. Male chimps reach about 150 or so pounds, but can get larger.
This is what happens when a chimp attacks a human:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_(chimpanzee)
If there's a 5% chance you could take a wolf there's an absolute 0% chance against a chimp. A monkey or ape bigger than 3 feet tall with malice towards me is probably about the dead last thing I'd want to fight in the animal kingdom. Top three for sure.
Have fun getting your face ripped off because you were scared of the big proto-doggie, I guess 🤷