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President Joe Biden was asked by a reporter in Israel on Wednesday what made him confident that the Israelis weren't behind the explosion that killed hundreds at a Gaza hospital on Tuesday.

Biden responded that it was "the data I was shown by my Defense Department."

Two U.S. officials told ABC News the Pentagon independently concluded the Gaza hospital blast was likely caused by an errant Palestinian Islamic Jihad rocket that fell short of its target.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just because they did a lot of bad things doesn't mean that you can blatantly lie about killing 500 civilians and then get away with it. Can Israel lie about Hamas beheading 500 babies? And when they do, are you going to accept the narrative of well even if they didn't do it, they did a lot of bad things? Don't think so.

I get why you're saying that, but that doesn't help anyone.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, Isreal bombed that same hospital 2 days earlier, was conducting bombing campaigns in the area, ordered the evacuation of the hospital less than 24 hours before, and kept changing their story around it. It was a pretty fair assumption that it was them until more evidence was produced.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Could you please provide a source on the bombing of the same hospital 2 days earlier by Israel?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://www.anglicannews.org/news/2023/10/anglican-run-al-ahli-arab-hospital-in-gaza-damaged-by-israeli-rocket-fire-as-conflict-continues.aspx

Sorry for the weird source, I grabbed it from Wikipedia. I could try to find something more reputable later today. It's hard to find sources on every specific bombing, as they've dropped many thousands in the past week.

Edit: This is anglicannews because the Anglican Church runs the hospital, so this is actually about as direct a source as we're gonna get. (I see that part in the headline now, I was tired when I found this earlier)

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel was asking every place that had civilians in the north, including this hospital, to evacuate them south. Which itself is highly problematic, but the warnings were not specific to this hospital.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

They specifically asked for hospitals to be evacuated in addition to the general evacuation order

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know multiple groups of people can be wrong at the same time right

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know that is exactly what I'm saying, right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Are both of you people even capable of saying anything which isn't a question GOD-DAMN