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Israel declares siege of Gaza as Hamas threatens to start killing hostages
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 10 Oct 2023
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Like which one? Give me one that you think sounded reasonable that the Palestinians did not accept.
Any of them. Pick one you don’t like and I’ll say that one.
I asked first
I answered too. Any one of them.
I don't think any of them are reasonable. Please show one where Israel was "moderate". You made the claim so please provide an example since it's not uncommon to hear that Israel's peace negotiations were shit and unfair. So please list a few that you think were reasonable anf the Palestinians missed out.
I don’t think I made any claim like that. I’m saying the Palestinian side has rejected all proposals - rightly or otherwise. Multiple wars have been lost, and they have no leverage other than terror. If they want peace, they have to choose it.
Honestly, I think the situation is so beyond toxic and arguing right or wrong is pointless. If the Palestinians had the power to enforce their will, they would. I don’t expect anything else from Israel.
Right, thanks, but I think most if not all peace negotiations were giving Palestinians impossible demands with Israel being the biggest winner. If it's anyone sabotaging the peace negotiations, it has always been Israel acting like an internet troll.
So yes, if Israel were to negotiate like a troll again, it won't work. So instead of shifting the focus on the Palestinians, it's Israel that needs a peace agreement that is reasonable and where they make concessions.
Palestinians overwhelmingly would accept a proposal where the Israelis go home in exchange for promising to not enact revenge. It's the Israelis who refuse.