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Is it underdeveloped though? They're certainly not the ones driving us toward the 6th mass extinction and potentially an uninhabitable earth (for humans)
Yes it's undeveloped
That's not what you said, you said underdeveloped, two very different things.
Okay sorry I think it's underdeveloped and undeveloped. Primitive, lesser, inferior, etc.
Ah okay, so you're bigoted, at least you admit it.
Yes, I admit it. I'm not going to play intellectually dishonest games with you or pretend I'm something I'm not.
That's good because I think you're a shitty excuse for a human being.
We are all flawed. Humans are inherently flawed creatures. I'm sorry you feel like this is a personal attack on you.
That's a convenient excuse for your racism. Fuck off, baseless, revisionist racist.
I'm just reading this and am a bit confused. The dude might be racist or whatever... idk, but wouldn't a culture that never developed written language be fairly considered "underdeveloped" in modern times?
Just a weird thread that turned to name calling super fast, and I'm not sure where that concept is wrong. Unless you believe humanity would be better developed if it devolved backwards to a point that written language didn't exist?
You are judging indigenous cultures through a capitalist lens. It's just not going to look like any of the indigenous people were successful.
Native Americans had written languages. They had their own philosophies (men can not "own" land). On the other side of the coin they had wars and genocides but just as the genieva convention exists today they had agreements on how to conduct those things.
But it's so much easier saying the brown people are savages.
Funny how someone mentions "some indigenous cultures never invented writing and are hunter gathers" and you immediately thought "brown people". There were indigenous cultures in Europe that never invented writing and were hunter gatherers, too.
No, because it is not your job, unless you are an expert in the field, to judge whether and how a culture is "developed", whatever that means.
I am just someone on the Internet, same as you. My expertise can be whatever I tell you, and is as important as whatever you want to claim as you expertise. Which is to say, it's not important at all. I could be lying and so could you. Doesn't mean we cant discuss things
But I'm pretty sure written language is a huge milestone in cultural development that most professionals would agree with. It is a huge advancement in almost all areas of civilization like the medicinal, cultural and technological fields. Hell, it literally changed our brains.
So the question is more, do you believe humanity was actually better before we made that giant leap? Because creating a written language fits perfectly into the definition of development.
My guess is that it'd be an extremely rare case that a culture was "better" before it came up with a written language. They just didn't have to capability of destruction that 8 billion people to.